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The gap in power between Jiren and Goku is bigger at the end of the arc than at the start.

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by PlainWarrior, May 17, 2018.

  1. PlainWarrior Well-Known Member

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    That is why he is the best antagonist.

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    Even though he is really the protagonist.

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    How so? UI and rage Jiren were pretty close. Near dead base/ssj Goku and near dead Jiren were pretty close too.
     
  4. PlainWarrior Well-Known Member

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    Goku can't use Ultra Instinct when he wants so can't include that form. Jiren's hidden power is a bigger power up than Goku natural progression throughout the tournament.
     
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    I think the gap is still the same (the same IMMENSE gap). Until goku can willingly go into UI mode.
     
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    Ok I thought you might mean that and I agree. If Jiren kept his power up. Should have said after the tournament and not at the end of it then. :smartgoku
     
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    Nah, Goku grew like times 100 in power without UI.
     
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    So many people are happy that Goku can't use UI at will.

    You do realize that will change, right? Toei isn't gonna dump that form when they could be selling toys,
     
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    >Gap between them at the end
    >Bigger
    >When Base Goku and Final Form Freeza whooped his ass

    PlainNerd being delusional once again. :tupac
     
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    After the tournament I mean.

    PlainWarrior is never delusional.

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    Jiren’s already fodder to Yamoshi and Goku’s gonna fight him in the movie.

    Yes, you are delusional. :mjlol
     
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    The Greatest.
     
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    Yeah that's nit happening as Jiren will be saving Goku's useless arse in the movie.

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    Getting fodderized by Yamoshi in the process. I wouldn’t be surprised if Goku does better against Yamoshi than Jiren does.

    Continue being delusional, PlainNerd. Much like how you thought Jiren was gonna win the tournament.

    :oldryoma
     
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    How come?
    What about UI/MUI?
     
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    End of arc which means no Ultra Instinct.
     
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    I can't possibly put one above the other.

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    But the Goku fans disagree, if Jiren corners Goku in a hypothetical fight UI comes out and buttrapes the baldy.

    That's not my opinion, it's generally viewed that way by Goku fans.

    He has to be the strongest, there are no buts and ifs. Goku is the MC.
     
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    You really like Piccolo that much.
    That is awesome.
     
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    Jiren is the guy responsible for triggering UI in the first place, doing it the third time on top of that, AND the guy who pushed UI far enough for goku to master it

    Its pretty clear if Goku fought Jiren again itd be triggered because Jiren is more than strong enough to trigger it
     
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