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The Intelligent Hip-Hop/Rap Discussion III - Part 5

Discussion in 'Music Department' started by Reznor, Apr 21, 2016.

  1. La Flame might flex and take your bae

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    Where did I say you can't state an opinion? I don't give a shit what others think about said artist, but by quoting me it's like you're waiting for a reply from me. You could've just state your opinion without quoting and I wouldn't have answered. Since you did, I replied. Why quote in the first place?
     
  2. ~Gesy~ Freshly drenched in coochie water

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    Yeah..they do that every year...Grammys are a joke
     
  3. Skaddix Well-Known Member

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    This year just stands out as Racism as the only answer. Like there is no possible other answer.

    Kacey is a fucking no name and didn't even light the sales charts on fire or dominate radio play.

    They didn't even cop out and give it the white guy in Post Malone. They gave it to the generic white girl.

    And they wonder why artists boycotted and Drake showed up just to Ether their ass.
     
  4. Cyphon Brotherhood of the Beard

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    Well you are acting butthurt enough about my opinion that it seems like you would rather I just never have said it.

    Your responses say otherwise

    I just quoted you because you mentioned something I felt like giving an opinion on. Just seemed more natural. I wasn't calling you out or anything. You weren't the only one who mentioned it, you were just the first one I clicked on to quote.
     
  5. ~Gesy~ Freshly drenched in coochie water

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    They had a Spanish chick singing Motown hits bro...

    Pusha T was mad as fuck!

     
  6. Skaddix Well-Known Member

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    LOL. Yeah he does look Pissed.
     
  7. La Flame might flex and take your bae

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    That's why I usually avoid debating about music. You can't quote someone by the name of "La Flame" about Travis Scott being trash. And again, I don't mind you stating your opinion, but you quote me like you want me to answer you.

    How? as I said it's like you were waiting for my reply. You can say whatever you want about whoever you want and I wouldn't care.

    Sorry if it seemed like i'm attacking. I just don't like debating about who's good and who sucks in music because you can't debate people's taste.
     
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    Your taste is trash.
     
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    Must be fun hating on everything uh?
     
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    :lmao

    Cardi b is ass foh :camby
     
  12. Mider T Busting in and out of guts

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    You're dipping into the same shit everyone used to criticize you for before you left. Have you even heard Sicko Mode or watched the video?
     
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    Says you. Lol
     
  14. ~Gesy~ Freshly drenched in coochie water

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    Cardi B>>>>>>>>>>Eminem:ho
     
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    Everyone used to criticize me? Must have been private because that didn't happen in here. Yes, I have heard it. Drake was solid, Travis was crap. He is garbage period.
     
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    Yeah because you gave this massive criticism without ever really backing it up. It was out in the open.

    Also that was the best music video from last year
     
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    I'm probably the only one who prefer Travis Parts over Drake's. That nig phoned it in on that track. :notrust
     
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    Nah I think Travis was better on that song. Before Sicko Mode/AstroWorld. I didn't really care for him, nothing really made him stand out for me.
     
  19. Cyphon Brotherhood of the Beard

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    You must be mistaking me for someone else. When I was posting here I was giving full album reviews with break downs of every song. At least for albums I was judging. Most memorably I wasn't a big fan of Lupe and people talked me into giving him more of a chance so I did it for his first 2 or so if I recall right.

    Music video and song quality are 2 different things. I don't watch music videos so have no input on that.
     
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    I'll give you that. In this case both were good. And you can't fully experience the song without the video in certain situations, like this one.
     
  21. Cyphon Brotherhood of the Beard

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    Eh, going to have to disagree on that. Songs come first and presumably with no video direction in mind as you are writing and recording them. What a director does with a video is a whole different thing.

    Either the song is good or not. Granted, a video might make you enjoy a song more but that doesn't really change what the song was and is. If you need visuals to enhance your song your song needs to be better to begin with.

    Maybe that is some of the disconnect too, is how we each judge songs. For me as someone who writes and records, part of how I judge is against myself. I ask myself "how long would it take me or how hard would it be to replicate this song". With guys like Travis I feel like it would take me a day or 2 to come up with their level of quality for an entire album. For guys like Cole, Jay-Z, etc....I don't even think I can replicate it.
     
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    The song is good. It's just not the full experience without the video. You can usually tell what songs are meant to be experienced in their entirety, usually they're by Kanye. The most famous example would be Thriller though.
     
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    I guess that is a fair point but Michael Jackson was a music genius and I can believe he made a song thinking further ahead. With guys that make music like Travis I am not buying that level of conscious thought.

    If you need another reason to know something is wrong here look at who he is fucking. He hit Kendall and Kylie Jenner. Look at the guys these women choose:

    Kanye - Lost his damned mind
    Lamar - OD
    Scott - Alcoholic
    Bruce - Cut his own dick off
    Travis - Just listen to his music.

    But seriously, he is terrible.
     
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    You're missing the point. It's not about MJ (he didn't even direct the video), it's about not getting the full experience from just the song. There is a clear difference in hearing Thriller and actually watching the video.
     
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    2 different convos. I agree you can get a different experience between a video and a song. Heck, that probably applies to most songs/videos. I am talking about it not changing the quality of the song.

    Ultimately though, it doesn't matter either way. It is 1 song (even if I thought it was good and I don't) and he has been bad in every one I have heard. Not Drake bad where I think he has some talent but can be super corny but bad as in how he ever got famous to being with is crazy to me. No talent.
     
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    You haven't heard the entire album so the argument is invalid. I wasn't impressed by him either before I actually gave it a listen.
     
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    You don't need to hear an entire album to know if someone is good or not or if you like them. It isn't like he had some drastic style evolution. Did he hire a ghost writer and become better lyrically? Did he drop the autotune? Did his flow improve? I listened to enough of the album combined with previous stuff I heard to know he didn't go from terrible to should be grammy winner unless his competition is borderline retarded.
     
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    Until you listen to the album you don't have a leg to stand on here, because my initial statement was that he should have won Album of the Year over Cardi B. I listened to both albums, fully, and AstroWorld was better. Whatever qualms you have about Travis Scott are irrelevant, because they're only from what you have heard so far.
     
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    The only reason she is big is because of payola and sympathy.:ho
     
  30. Cyphon Brotherhood of the Beard

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    I have plenty of leg to stand on because I never said he shouldn't have won, I asked how bad the competition must be if he should have one. If he is terrible (and he is) and still should have won well then....Enough said.
     
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