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Timeskip Sakura vs. Haku

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by thewinterknight, Mar 28, 2005.

  1. thewinterknight

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    Ok gang! Here is a dream match. It feature everyone's favorite pink-haired girl with the freakish strength! Here is Sakuraaaaaaaaa. And in that blue corner over there is our local pretty-boy speed demon, Hakuuuuuu!

    Ok here is the rule, no dirty tricks, hitting below the belt.

    GO!


    So what do you think?

    Discuss.
     
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  2. BattousaiMS

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    I'll say draw.

    I don't think Sakura's Isshi resshin would be strong enough to break the ice walls if Haku ever used his Makyou hyoushou on her. But If she can summon Katsuya who knows?
     
  3. Kno7

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    I think by now sakura is fast enough to evade haku's needles, and strong enough to break the demonic ice mirrors. As I said many MANY times before, I don't find haku rather impressive, and sakura has surprised me in these last chapters.

    Thus, my vote goes to haku.





    Eh..I mean sakura :p
     
  4. Maffy the Love Doctor

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    i'm sure sakura is good enough now to beat haku.
     
  5. rotarysports

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    Hmmm I'm not so sure, I'm leaning more towards Haku.

    How can Sakura beat Haku's Master Technique ? She can't punch him if she can't see him.
     
  6. Maffy the Love Doctor

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    idk, sakura's smart. she'll find a way to beat it :smile-big.
     
  7. Kno7

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    well, she can break at least a couple of mirors with one punch.

    After two three punches, haku will have no where to hide.
     
  8. rotarysports

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    Hehe.. smart in the forehead yes. :smile-big

    She has never shown any analytical smart like Shikamaru, Neji, Kakashi, or Kidoumaru.

    Yeah well how will she break the mirrors in the first place ? Remember, Naruto and Sasuke tried to break them but Haku moved so fast he beat them both before they have a chance to get to the mirrors.
     
  9. Poopahd

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    Why don't we assume that Haku was alive all along...for timeskip and all :). I don;t find it fair that Sakura gets all that time to gain strength and poor lil Haku is dead and can't do anything. :sad

    Oh well...to get back on topic. I still don't think Sakura would be able to take Haku, even with her new strength and all that. She doesn't have as much fighting experience as I assume Haku has or had. Haku, as far as I know, has superior techniques and is quite fast. Sakura has come a long way I must say , stronger and faster, but I dunno if she could pull it off. I'd have to call it a draw, or if anyone has to win I say Haku.
     
  10. GSurge

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    She'd likely be able to smash the ground enough to either go underground and escape, or use rock to break the mirrors.
     
  11. cupnoodles

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    sakura's dead if haku actually wants to kill for a change. the guy's movements is way too fast for sakura's sorry ass to dodge. by the time she takes two steps, she's got 50 needles in her vital areas. it doesn't matter if she can break the mirrors or punch the ground to escape. if haku would just shut up and go straight to the killing, it'll take him a second to finish her off.
     
  12. Kno7

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    Comon now, her punch is herculean. Sasuke was able to dogde a little to avoid getting hit in vital areas, and his speed when he graduated wasn't that fast. Now after 3 years of training I'm sure sakura would be able to dogde. You know you don't have to as fast as the projectile to dogde, its like shooting a gun, it makes in harder when you're running around in zigzags.

    Or she can just try to do many bunshins so haku won't know where she is, and that gives her a couple of seconds to gather chackra in her fist and crush haku's mirrors.

    Also, we haven't seen sakura's full potential. She's supposed to be good in genjutsu, and we've never seen her use one yet, whereas we've seen haku's ultimate attack.

    I don't see how sakura could lose.
     
  13. Aman

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    Don't understand how some people think that Haku would win even though Sasuke=Haku when he was that weak and now Sakura has trained under Tsunade for 2.5 years!
     
  14. naruto27

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    Sakura. she would break that glass with a punch. not to mention her chakra control. besides we don't know the full extent of what sakura is capable of.
     
  15. rotarysports

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    Sure she hits hard, but then again she doesn't have Sharingan. Sasuke was able to see Haku because of it. It's like Sakura trying to hit a 5-gate Lee. Projectile ? Been watching too much Matrix ? :p Anyway, if Sakura couldn't see the projectiles, she wouldn't know when or how to dodge.

    Did you see Naruto's multiple kage bunshin has no effect whatsoever ?

    We've seen her for 253 episodes of the manga whereas we've only seen Haku for what ? 20 -30 ? Based on what we've seen so far, Haku wins.

    Stabbed to death by Haku's needles.

    Don't understand how some people think Sasuke=Haku when it was clearly Kyuubi Naruto who beat Haku while Sasuke knocked out to almost death. No lame excuse about trying to save Naruto now. If Sasuke = Haku, he wouldn't have need Naruto's help at all.

    Please read above.
     
  16. Gooba

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    Haku is AT BEST a mid Chuunin, Sakura is at least high Chuunin now. Haku is so overrated if people think he can hang with the only student for 2.5 years of a Sannin.
     
  17. rotarysports

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    Where is it stated ? Or shown implicitly ?

    Same as above.

    So ? Lee could be training under the Gai the best teacher in taijutsu but when faced with a genjutsu, he almost surely will fall for it.
     
  18. Gooba

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    Shown implicitly by his power level. Neji during the Chuunin exam almost beat a Kyuubi Naruto more powerful than the one who almost killed Haku, and he wasn't even promoted to Chuunin.

    Sakura is shown implicitly because she is being sent on a mission to fight Akatsuki, and because it makes no sense for her to be lower. People postskip are going to be able to beat the first enemy the genin beat, it is common sense.

    If the person is really far below him then they won't get a chance to use it. If they are close then yea, he would lose, but that is fine. He might even just hurt himself and get out of it. But he is an exception because of his very unique ability to not do jutsus. Sakura was a genjutsu specialist who just got a huge dose of taijutsu. She is well rounded and will probably surpass Tsunade eventually.
     
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  19. Rougtan

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    30 second knock out, Sakura wins. It wouldn't even be a fight for her.
     
  20. rotarysports

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    Yet Shikamaru who is the weakest of all 8 genins are promoted to Chuunin. Your point is moot. I'm sure you do know what rank Naruto has right now, right ? I don't want to put a spoiler.

    She's being sent because she's the medical person of team 7 and they are a team, they work together well. Tenten is sent on a mission to fight Akatsuki, is she automatically stronger than Shino or Kiba ? People postskip beating the first enemy the genin beat ? You mean every single one of the rookie 9 postskip is as strong as Kyuubi Naruto when he fought Haku ? Answer this : How is Sakura going to see and dodge Haku's needles ?

    I use Lee as an example, let's not digress. My point is so far, we haven't seen anything how Sakura going to see those needles and dodge them. That's all. In the future, eons from now, when she's reached her full potential, sure I agree. But right now, I'm inclined to say no because we've seen her fight a little already and there is no indication she can beat Haku's bloodline move.
     
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  21. rotarysports

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    Anyway, a vs battle against dead people is lame. I'm done. I'd rather compare Sakura with Tenten or Hinata postskip.
     
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    Sakura would prolly lose coz she's too slow and Haku was never serious in his fight against Naruto and Sasuke. If Haku tried, I'm sure he could get a needle or two into Sakura's eyeballs and finish her quickly.
     
  23. Gooba

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    Easily, same way every freaking ninja avoids thrown weapons. Jump/Kawirimi/block/whatever. Thrown weapons are actually pretty crappy unless they are in massive amounts like the umbrella needle attack.

    Basicly, anyone postskip will beat anyone preskip who was defeated by a Genin.

    Spoiler:
    Naruto's rank is an exception because he was not in the village for those years. Rank is actually a decent judge of power as long as there is nothing weird going on.
     
  24. Aman

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    Um... Haku just won because he used Naruto as beit.
    S-T-A-T-S just look at the stats and you'll know that Haku is AT BEST LOW-MID chuunin level.
     
  25. warcraft

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    so sure Sakura maybe a bit faster and stronger now but Haku would throw tons of neddles into her neck and make her into a pincushion and can people stop saying that Sasuke beat Haku because he didn't , Kyuubi Naruto did , Haku is a smart guy and i would say no wait i won't say , Haku would win no matter what and i think most of u know that i am a major Haku fan and like i say that Haku would win all time ok i do that but i am not Bais
     
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    Haku baited Sasuke into saving Naruto. If Naruto had not been there, Sasuke would not have developed the Sharingan in time to kill Haku. If Sasuke hadn't have been there, Naruto could well have fallen.
    If Haku had actually been trying to kill either of them, he would have succeeded very quickly. Either Naruto on his own (even with Kyuubi) and Sasuke on his own, could quite easily have been defeated. They both survived through dumb luck.

    If Haku was allowed to develop properly, including the time-skip, then there's no doubt in my mind he would have won. So long as he got over his problem with killing.

    Hate to break it to ya fella, but Kakashi sped up his fight with Zabuza because he thought Narutos seal was about to break. Naruto was uncontrollable and far faster then Haku whilst Haku was using the mirrors. Neji fought Naruto whilst he was using a controlled amount of Chakra. In effect, a far weaker (but controlled) Kyuubi Naruto.
     
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    Well, i've got to go with Haku on this one. Demonic Ice Mirrors is just too fast for Sakura, and when Haku get's caught, Sakura loads her fist and punches him to realize that is a replacement, and voil? Haku throws 120 needles at her :)
    Nah, seriously i dunno.
     
  28. Aman

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    If the normal Naruto becomes stronger then kyuubi naruto becomes stronger too. Naruto was A LOT stronger when he fought neji then when he fought Haku.
     
  29. Gooba

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    Agreed, but he wasn't. Everyone is going to ridiculously more powerful after the timeskip. Sakura probably got a lot faster, and definitly stronger. He could break the mirrors with a punch and then just get out, assuming she got trapped in them or didn't just KO Haku beforehand. 2.5 years under a Sannin is going to make them orders of magnitude better than they were after 3 weeks under a Jounin. The manga is now going to focus on fighting S class nins above even Zabuza. It makes no sense to assume they are going to leave one of the main characters back to where the rest were in the very beginning. Sasuke and Naruto are Akatsuki level now, so even if she is as far behind them as she was preskip(she won't be), still makes her far beyond Haku. She is a genjutsu specialist, fights in the battledome seem to be based at least 70% on taijutsu and 30% ninjutsu. In actuality it is more like 33/33/33. I bet her Jounin level genjutsu will be able to trap high Genin level Haku, even if he was high Chuunin he probably would. Kurenai would be dead instead of the 4th best Jounin in the strongest village if genjutsu wasn't useful. Postskip main characters vs Preskip only people is going to be a win for postskip in basicly every case, except for Zabuza who might be able to still hold his own against some of the Genin.
     
  30. Aman

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    Here's Haku's stats...

    Iruka's... (just to compare)

    Asuma...

    Zabuza...

    Now you should know warcraft on what level Haku is.
     
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