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To change or not to change? what's true strenght?

Discussion in 'Philosophical Forum' started by whitecrowz, Sep 5, 2005.

strongest way?

  1. stick to your ideal?

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  2. retreat if you think it's better.

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  3. wtf???????? who cares??????????????

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  1. whitecrowz

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    excuse me as my level in english is only average, I mighnt not exactly transmit what I'm trying to say so please try to catch the message.

    Now if someone has an ideal, and sticks with it and battles and struggles to defend it; it's a form of strenght.
    But if you manage to chang your viewpoint and hang your way of thinking cuz u realize u were wrong, that's also a form of strenght?

    So what's the strongest way?
     
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  2. kapsi

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    What's your point? I try to be open minded, as everyone else do.
     
  3. Counterattack

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    Well, if you really believe that you were wrong, or your way really wasn't the best way, it's okay to change your mind. A lot of people will see this as a weakness and give you shit about it to bring you down, but fuck 'em. At least you tried, right?
     
  4. Kaki

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    Well altering your ideals when you relize they are wrong is the strongest way. Think of it metaphoricaly: water always beats rocks.
     
  5. NarutardKK

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    See.....this is too broad of a question. One may take it as one situation while another person takes it as a completely opposite situation. It all depends on what you're going through and what the situation is. I don't think there is a possibility for generalization on a question like this.
     
  6. princesstaco

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    I think a truely strong person is one who knows which ideals to defend and which ones to change.
     
  7. Near

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    :D

    yeah I agree!
     
  8. JoshDB

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    I'm open-minded... If I realize what I'm doing is wrong I'll change it, simple as that.
     
  9. Marysmary

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    I stick to being open minded..

    It feels worse when you stick to your opinion..esp. when you're wrong.
     
  10. zeoblade

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    The strongest way is to choose the path that will keep improving you so it can be a combination of sticking to what is right and changing yourself when you are wrong
     
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    Does that mean sucking ass like you zeoblade???:laugh
     
  12. zeoblade

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    Why does this guy want to suck my ass?
     
  13. Dude your such an idiot zeoblade:p
     
  14. Vicious ♥

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    lol Murph you're the idiot here talking BS o_O
     
  15. InEviTabLe.SiN

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    Learning from your mistakes is the best strength anyone can have.
     
  16. Inactive Roy

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    I think it depends on the situation... If you're unhappy and decide to change yourself because if it you're a strong person, also if you're under pressure to change and stay true to yourself then in that situation you are also strong.
     
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    It depends on the situation. Sometime you have to compromise even when your right.
     
  18. CrazyMoronX

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    Changing the way you believe once you've realized and accepted that you are wrong is much more difficult to do than defend a position no matter how futile it is.

    I say it takes more strength to change than it does to defend, especially if you've held that belief for a long time.

    Defending something no matter what when you know you're right has its merits, but it's easier to be asured in your beliefs and just say "screw it".
     
  19. Dark Schneider

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    Well, where I'm from we have a saying:

    "Only the stupid and the deceased never change their views"
     
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  20. zeoblade

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    And you're also keep improving yourself too and get much stronger
     
  21. less

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    As a human being, you are obligated to review and question your own beliefs throughout your life, and change them when you feel something is amiss. Thinking you're right about everything is the world's biggest thing to be wrong about. Socrates, anyone?
     
  22. Yamainu

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    I agree with Counterattack.
     
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    So do I, if it's broken, then fix it. If it isn't broke then don't.
     
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    It depends on the person...The way I see it is True strenghth lies in the eye of the beholder...So if you think changing's good than way to go! Some times you just got to be the bigger person...
     
  25. Vicious ♥

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    Where you from? that's a crap saying btw.
     
  26. wiggely

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    no that statement is true. the only exception to this saying would be someone who is perfect, and there aren't any perfect people.

    of course the answer to this is to change. one should believe in what they do because of the best reasons support their view (this really doesn't apply to religion). if a time comes, which it does unless one is perfect, when you are presented with a different view that has even better reasons than your view, you should change. if your idea has better reasons to support it than the other view, you should stick with your view.
     
  27. da_god

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    YOu guys need to download some David Icke videos.

    Those who control the Norms, Control the Society.

    Now, who controls you???

    I agree with Dark Schneider and Wiggley on this one.

    -except, I am imperfect as an individual(HUMAN), but WE are perfect as a whole(GOD). The concept of being an individual is one's death.
     
  28. MF NaruSimpson

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    Your ideas should stand on there own, not you stand to defend your ideas. Change is good when it's in the right direction :wink

    Kapsis banned? :oh
     
  29. GOD'S BITCH

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    I tend to be very conservative and I'm not a big fan of change. Change shouls only occur if absolutely neccessary. Its harder to stick to your own principles especially if its outdated. Defending you ideal displays strength not conforming to the ideals of society.
     
  30. wiggely

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    what if your principles and ideals are wrong? and you discover this. this does happen to everyone since we all make mistakes. is it not right to change your views when you realize they could or are wrong?
     
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