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Toushirou Hitsugaya vs. Ikkaku Madarame

Discussion in 'Bleach' started by Kira-chan, Jun 7, 2007.

  1. Kira-chan

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    Toushirou Hitsugaya vs. Ikkaku Madarame with both willing and able to use Bankai, so who wins in this battle?
     
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    Narrowly Tōshirō. Judging from Ikkaku's mêlées with Ichigo and Edorad Leones, and Tōshirō's with Gin, Shawlong Qufang and Luppi, it seems that Tōshirō is not inferior to Ikkaku in close range fighting skill. Shawlong was in my mind superior to Edorad, and had Tōshirō fought at full power from the beginning his battle with Shawlong would have been trivial, whereas Ikkaku fought Edorad at full power and struggled — while this was partially the fault of his reluctance to use his final release, it seems to me that Ikkaku's dominance of Edorad would not have come close to Tōshirō's of Shawlong. Ikkaku's and Tōshirō's threats to Luppi, respectively insignificant and massive (Tōshirō could have killed Luppi, then the Sexta Espada), further suggest that Ikkaku would by no means have a dominating advantage in mêlée.

    If neither shinigami could release then Ikkaku may have the upper hand due to greater fighting experience, more stamina and his fearlessness, but once Tōshirō releases Hyōrinmaru and Ikkaku Hōzukimaru, Tōshirō will establish his dominance.

    While Ikkaku's released zanpakutō is a powerful, mêlée focused weapon which grants him many opportunities to trick his opponent between its sanjiegun and naginata natures, Hyōrinmaru grants Tōshirō too supreme a control over ice and water, and Ikkaku will be at significant risk at close range from Tōshirō's ice dragons and cunning use of his zanpakutō. If Ikkaku is frozen and Tōshirō is serious, the battle ends soon after as even if Ikkaku is capable of breaking himself free, it will take at least a fraction of a second.

    The stage at which their shikai clash is not decisively in Tōshirō's favour, however, as it's not impossible for Ikkaku to avoid Hyōrinmaru's wrath and if he can, he should have the upper hand in a mêlée at this stage (as his released zanpakutō solely augments his fighting abilities, whereas Tōshirō's is almost a kidō type).

    If both perform their final releases while in a healthy state, the battle will become more hectic with it being even more difficult for Ikkaku to evade harm due to the immediate victory of Tōshirō's ryūsenka technique and the threat of the ice pillars of sennen hyōrō. It was Edorad Leones' foolishness that he gave Ikkaku's Ryūmon Hōzukimaru opportunity to come to full power and then engage in a direct clash — Tōshirō will not do this, and so the threat of Ikkaku's bankai is dampened. Still, Ikkaku at this point can kill Tōshirō with one successful attack that doesn't terminate with him being frozen.

    Both are very skilled and fully capable of defeating the other with one successful attack, but Tōshirō's zanpakutō is just a little more capable at the initial release of instantly winning the battle with a touch, and honestly I believe Tōshirō is the more skilled of the two.
     
  3. AbnormallyNormal

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    ikkaku wins due to insanity and willingness to die in battle as a glorious hero, plus he would surprise the shit out of hitsu when he shows bankai power
     
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    Hitsugaya's hit would freeze him and Ikkaku is a melee guy. Hitsugaya wins.
     
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    Toushiro would probably win, simply because Ikkaku's personality holds him back.

    Hitsugaya would release immediately (Gin fight doesn't count. I'm a filler fag.), while Ikkaku remains unreleased to have more fun.

    Ikkaku would release eventually, while already sustaining some injury. Toushiro would still be winning, even if slightly.

    After they go bankai, it's pretty hard to guess. Ikkaku's pure-power bankai would easily slice through the ice, and with his experience, he could probably hold off against Whitey's more powerful attacks before his timer runs out. The only problem is his stamina. If the damage he takes while unreleased surpasses the healing ability of his Neosporin, then he could be in trouble.

    If I were to guess right now, I would probably say Toushiro.
    His no-nonsense fighting style being a key factor.

    Oh and for the record. I believe Edorad was the most powerful numero during the first Karakura invasion. Shawlong and fatty seemed pretty weak in comparison to Renji and Ikkaku's opponents.
     
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    Hitsugaya would win this easily. Ikkaku has no advantages in this fight whatsoever, plus Hitsugaya's ice would pretty much own the crap out of him.
     
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    hitsu would shit his pants seeing ikkaku go bankai then pass out
     
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    Tōshirō really doesn't strike me as someone capable of recoiling in fear.
     
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    Hitsugaya would win because all the prayers of the fan boys would boost his power level to OVER 9000!!!!!
     
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    Hitsugaya wins IMO =/
     
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    Hitsugaya would crush him..
     
  12. Samurai G

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    toshirou would lose if Ikakku got close enough to him with his bankai and slashed him once at full power with his bankai fully awake ,hitsugaya's ice cant protect him from the massive reiatsu ikakku uses in his blades ,his ice would get crushed ,unless he stayed far from ikakkku and fought him long range .
     
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