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True Fire of Samadhi and Ameratsu vs Healing Factors --- Did the manga forshadow KK killing Tsunade?

Discussion in 'New Leaf' started by Reviewing Logic, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. Reviewing Logic Peekaboo I see you! ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)

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    Do you think Samadhi or Amaterasu would burn so hot or so fast that certain said healing factors wouldn't be able to keep up?

    In the Boruto manga it was stated by KK that the old dude in Kara possessed a healing/regenerative ability.

    Idk how efficient his healing/regeneration tech is but the old man (now dead) apparently bragged highly about it that KK mentioned it while using his true flames.

    This got me thinking several things :catthinks

    1. Was Amaterasu also known for being so lethal?

    I know there is that DB statement saying it is as "HOT AS THE SUN" but you know :catskully

    2. Could either flame also burn away other well known healing/regenerative factors? (if the user like Kaguya couldn't absorb it)

    Like Byakugou, or Kyuubi/Jin Healing factors (Naruto clearly had to block it with Kyuubi chakra, or Orochi's healing factor, Madara and his rikudo healing factor, etc...

    The old man was a nobody and only left the idea that elders exist in Kara and also his so called tooted regenerative ability.

    Which leads to point #3. KK being connected to Konoha and also Jiraiyah in some sense...

    3.Do you think Kodachi just showcased this scene and the mention of a healing factor to foreshadow Tsunade being killed by KK in some way or form? Maybe Orochi as well?

    I say this because KK runs the Fire Nation supervision (I think the old dude did too but now he is dead so :catshrug)

    I believe KK isn't Jiraiya but he will get involved in taking down everything related to him like the Sannin and his flames will help him do that. :catstalk


    What do you guys think of these 3 points.... yes, no? Post Below :catblush
     
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  2. Platypus Well-Known Member Super Moderator

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    I guess that depends on whether you want to go by Amaterasu's hype and statements or by its feats.
     
  3. Reviewing Logic Peekaboo I see you! ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)

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    Unprotected victims would likely be the best case to examine its burning rate

    I think the best form of that (without someone turning it off) was the forest near the Uchiha hideout and the white Zetsus in the Boruto anime that were burning in the former Madara/Kaguya hideout

    the only thing is that the trees had the flames on them but they didn't burn quickly away when Kakashi and co arrived at the scene

    and the zetusus we don't know when Sasuke ignited the flames at them and if they were truly burnt away like KK feat with that old man

    KK used the flames on Konohamaru as well but I can't seem to grasps its burning rate via panels before Boruto sucked them away with his Karma
     
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    Looking back it seems Konohamaru was hardly burnt by Zanmai no Shinka despite him being on fire for the few moments it took Boruto to get all emotional and activate Karma. Such poor showing so soon. It really is the next gen equivalent of Amaterasu. :too fresh
     
  5. Ultrafragor Well-Known Member

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    Tsunade? How about Sakura

    Sarada Mangekyo confirmed
     
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    Tsunade fight in boruto MANGA? don't make me laugh
     
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    Sakura isn't Jiraiya's friend/teammate. Reviewing_Logic wants it to be Tsunade seeing as there's supposedly a connection between Koji and Jiraiya. Again, it's like poetry…
     
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    Uh, we'll have to see how that plays out.

    KK just killing her cuz loljiraiya is horrible writing.

    Even if it's written well, it just seems like a contrived scenario to make KK look more evil.

    Tsunade is gonna be fodderized by him?

    Why y'all hate her? She's just a granny now. Shit, she just works at the hospital. Let her live, damn.

    You know byakugou is gonna make her death painful and pathetic.
     
  9. Reviewing Logic Peekaboo I see you! ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)

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    idk if Sakura tries to stop him then sure

    but I don't see KK ever fighting her or going after her as she has no connection to Jiraya

    indeed it is :blobblush

    then Naruto is like :blobree:blobree:blobree:blobree
     
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    There is not really any evidence he is going out of his way to kill Jiriaya associates.
     
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    none but he has a vision apparently for what he wants the ninja world to be like *stated it to Delta

    that the plan was going to start regardless

    and prior he stated that as much as he avoided it, his fate is connected to the LEAF

    then he knows Orcohi and his son Mitsuki, so I am guessing he is up to date with Tsunade as well

    as for the hint.... my OP said that the old man's only use in the manga before he did was to foreshadow a similar event happening to Tsunade
    well the dude is already evil

    he tried to kill Boruto, Konohamaru and the rest of Team 7 without any hesitation

    plus it can be used to push his past narrative and move his plot forward

    since with all the content we got for him, he is in some way or form connected to the Pervy Sage




    Plus it doesn't even have to be him going after them but them going after him...

    Eventually Naruto will learn of him... then maybe Orochi and Tsunade

    and knowing Tsunade especially she might try to confront him or investigate
     
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    True Fire of Samadhi vs Ameratsu will happen and it will be good :popcorn
     
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  13. Reviewing Logic Peekaboo I see you! ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)

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    they are both burning Tsunade's corpse :troll
     
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    Not that much tbh. It'll be one of those cliché where the original absolutely destroys a copy because let's be honest. Sasuke right now based on kojis portrayal is tiers above koji.


    Koji is still kono rival imo. Sasuke has Urashiki. Naruto has Jigen I guess
     
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    If Koji is Jiraiya or some clone/android version of Jiraiya, then Orochimaru is the more likely person for Koji to kill.

    1) Orochimaru knowing that Koji is some form of Jiraiya and chasing after him while investigating Kara would be more poetic as it parallels Jiraiya's own activities following Orochimaru and investigating Akatsuki in the original Manga.

    2) The whole rivalry bromance is something Kishimoto always cared to illustrate more then actual romance. So Orochimaru now turned good trying to save Jiraiya, would be more in line with the type of parallels Kishimoto likes then Tsunade going after Jiraiya. Also we never really got to see Orochimaru and Jiraiya's bromance, so that would be something nice that Kishimoto could add.

    3) Orochimaru's defeat/death is more impactful to the main characters at this point then Tsunade's, due to Mitsuki's direct connection to Orochimaru. And this would set up Koji as a good main villain for Mitsuki, considering Mitsuki is like Orochimaru 2.0, so I could see him being the ultimate enemy of Koji, if Koji is Jiraiya or a J-man Android/Clone.

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    I also just hope this does happen. One of the biggest problems with the original series, is that no one really had main villains in the series besides Naruto and Sasuke (even Sasuke didn't have them as much towards the end), so I really hope in Boruto time is spent developing main villains for each of Neo Team 7
     
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  16. pat pat Well-Known Member

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    Where the fuck did people get that idea!?
    He completely obliterated him like a kiddy and was about to burn him like a damn chicken! COME ON
     
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    :too fresh


    Even better setup for kono to defeat him in a rematch
     
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    No it just means he is wayyyyyyyy out of his league
    He can just kill him with sahmadi’s fire :fatcat
     
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    I remember when itachi low diffed kid sasuke:too fresh
     
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    ITAchi had a story with sasuke , he was sasuke’s life goal
    KK has no relationship so far with konohamaru and is wayyyy above his league lol
     
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    Doubtful, he's shown a knockoff amaterasu, rasengan and toads
    2/3 which kono can also do, plus sarutobi fire jutsus

    Like I'll give you his level to be max to max sage jiraya, to which kono can easily improve across the series and defeat

    You make it seem he's otutsuki level which he's not even near by feats. Heck he aint even kisame/itachi level imo
     
  22. Reviewing Logic Peekaboo I see you! ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)

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    lol why do people keep on saying that


    KK is above Konohamaru by a long shot :catskully
     
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    I really doubt those are the only things from KK's arsenal.
     
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    It will burn at the level of Plot.
     
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    The total lack of Tsunade or references to her in these scenes makes me believe it's not aimed at her
     
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    Doubtful granted will probably get one last ride Classic Old Guard Fights way later on in this manga.
     
  27. BlinkST All is well in the kingdom

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    Tag me when it happens madafaka:catwalk
     
  28. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    Rinnegan beat EMS ages ago though. In fact, we learnt the EMS was just a Yangless Rinnegan. :quite
     
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    Nah Bruh. Kaguya gave the Uchiha light. She managed to have Rinnegan Powers and retain her Byakugan in tact.
     
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    I can imagine that happening. I can't see Oro dying as I'm sure he's ensured he'd be reincarnated through one of his Mitsuki clones. However, I can see Tsunade dying.

    The Uchiha lost light the moment we learnt their famous KG was just a Yang-less Rinnegan. Her using Rinnegan Genjutsu and Byakugan doesn't say much.

    The Sharingan is just a stepping stone to the Rinnegan for strong Uchiha like Madara and Sasuke. Even Oro and Kabuto just wanted the Sharingan so they could get closer to the Rinnegan.
     
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