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Tsunade vs Mei

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Fragile, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. Fragile Come at me

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    Distance: 30m

    Location: Forest of Death

    Knowledge: Full

    Minset: To kill

    Restrictions: None
     
  2. Bonly Full Metal

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    With No restrictions then Tsunade can win handily whenever she brings out the slug.

    Even without the slug Tsunade still likely wins. With knowledge Byakugo would likely go on right away and she can heal her from the acid mist as well as Mei's sutions and Yōtons. Tsunade also has more chakra and can likely outlast Mei.
     
  3. walpurgis Burgoo Keep the Sorcerers in their place_!!

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    Tsunade wins, mist immediatly(either type) is countered by boss-summoning immediately, which will create the neccessary opening for the hokages cqc romp to victory over the mizukage.

    ...and the knowledge dictates mei has to go for mist immediately...

    water dragons can be punchhed & tanked.
    lava globs have less volume & direct hits can be evaded.
     
  4. DaVizWiz ║╝‎‎ ‎‎╠╣ ║

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    Mei destroys her.

    Flood Dragon drowns her, Water Encampment swallows any and all acid spit as well as completely washing Katsuyu away.

    Tsunade wouldn't have much of a chance at countering the acidic mist, there's generally no way her regeneration can keep up with that pace of decay. Her eyes and skin melt first, and she screams in utter pain while blind and completely defenseless.

    Katsuyu can't survive against Lava spit either if you think she'd offer some type of counter.

    Mei is just a bad matchup for a Taijutsu-only type.
     
  5. walpurgis Burgoo Keep the Sorcerers in their place_!!

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    yeah, the lava would beat the slug. but Mei cant take both slug and tsunade at the same time.

    all tsunade has to do is close the gap imo. then she can strike mei in cqc,even while ducking shots of lava/slipping thru water wall. the slug counters the mist & creates the neccessary diversion
     
  6. DaVizWiz ║╝‎‎ ‎‎╠╣ ║

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    Why can't she take them on? Her Flood Dragon would clearly hit both of them and Water Encampment means she isn't closing any distance.

    If Tsunade plans on closing the distance than the slug can't spit acid, so all Mei has to do is focus on Tsunade.
     
  7. walpurgis Burgoo Keep the Sorcerers in their place_!!

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    okay: i just realized the circular-ness of our debate; im done :sweatdrop

    thanks for bothering anyway, but i just see it differently
     
  8. Fragile Come at me

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    What about Tsunade tanks all of Mei's jutsu with her Byakugo active? :zaru And I don't know how Mei's lava and Suitons are supposed to take Katsuyu down. From what I've seen, she can spit pretty large mass of acids as well that is hard for a person to dodge. Although Kirigakure no Jutsu may be an asset, I still wouldn't consider it some kind of deal breaker since Tsunade is almost immortal and she only needs one punch to end the match. Mei also hasn't shown any amazing speed feats to reason that she evades all of Tsunade's attacks.

    I think Tsunade is really really underestimated in this section.
     
  9. walpurgis Burgoo Keep the Sorcerers in their place_!!

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    Well i think Mei could win but i favor Tsunade...but tsunade/slug wil not tank acid or lava. we arent underestimating Tsunade & she isnt immortal in any sense.
    :geg
     
  10. Fragile Come at me

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    I didn't say she's immortal, I actually said she's almost immortal. The number of ways to permanently kill her is few. Even splitting her in half didn't help.
     
  11. Kotre Member

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    Thning is though, when you think about it, Mei is a really fucking broken fighter. She doesn't even need to overcome Tsunade's uberhealing. She's got the potential to use a combination of lava and water techniques to turn Tsunade into a statue. (lave stream ala melting apparition only aimed directly at Tsunade ==> water release technique to solidify the lava ==> immobilised Tsunade. I'm not saying she'd win, because Tsunade could break her face with a punch before she gets a chance, but Mei is still haxy as fuck.
     
  12. DaVizWiz ║╝‎‎ ‎‎╠╣ ║

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    Is Tsunade V2 A now?

    On what level does Tsunade ever make contact with someone who was counter nuking Madara?

    What is this wank about? As soon as Tsunade takes a step she's destroyed by a water encampment or flood dragon, following a quick boiler release which she wouldn't tank on a max level assuming the first two battlefield suitons didn't snap her spine.

    Slug is tanking lava release and Flood Dragon? What the fuck...

    When does the slug get summoned? Before or after the flood dragon drowns Tsunade?

    When does Tsunade open her seal? Before or after the flood dragon breaks her body?

    When does Tsunade punch Mei? Before or after the air is boiling and her eyes are liquid? Assuming she blitzes inside the oven that is Mei's boil release, is it before she clouds the field in hidden mist?

    Oh my.. :geg
     
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  13. Gin Active Member

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    I consider Tsunade the strongest among the five Kages, while Mei Terumi is among the weakest Kages ever. Tsunade certainly wins this. She might not even have to summon Katsuya.
     
  14. walpurgis Burgoo Keep the Sorcerers in their place_!!

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    :rotfl....

    incidentally, ^your post is just as insubstantial as mine :amuse
    Mei has stronger offense...
     
  15. Gin Active Member

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    It's just my impression. I can't consider Onoki the strongest anymore, since his age seems to become a weakness. I know that prime Onoki could rape Tsunade, but I don't think that could happen now...
    And Mei just disappointed me in so many ways. She was my favorite Kage but during the fight against Madara she proved her weak will by being the first one to give up. And she does not seem to make that much use of her Kekkei Genkai skills either.

    Edit: And besides, why would Tsunade have to summon Katsuya if her regeneration ability is not restricted?
     
  16. Bonly Full Metal

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    I hope you mean physically strongest only and not overall strongest.
     
  17. Boudicca Mokuton 木遁

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    Tsunade wins with the help of Katsuyu and Byakugo. Mei may have strong offenses but I'd say the hardest bit for Tsunade would be the mist, although Byakugo would save her.
     
  18. Synn Well-Known Member

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    Tsunade takes this with no difficulty.

    An open, enclosed area would favor Mei greatly, but this isn't the case. Tsunade is good at evasion, so she can pretty much avoid most attacks and land a fatal blow.

    Katsuyu isn't even necessary, but no restrictions mean this is a rape in Tsunade's favor.
     
  19. The Pirate on Wheels The Missing Link

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    Mei is a glass cannon, and Tsunade is a tank with an immortal acid shooting slug. Meaning she can take the punishment and take out Mei with any one attack. Including sending Katsuya to go in scout mode to find Mei's position, and either have her shot with acid, or jump in there and make it a close and personal fight, even with mist. Mei has the tools to drag out the fight, and try to keep away, but ultimately she will lose to Tsunade.
     
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    Posts like this are just embarrassing. Mei is the fucking Mizukage.
     
  21. tracytracy22 Member

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    Without Katsuyu, I this Mei would win mid difficulty. Mei can keep her away using her water dragon and skilled mist techniques. Hidden mist and skilled mist is also a very deadly combination. Even with her byakugou technique, Tsunade would have a tough time dealing with Mei's lava jutsu. Like Lt Iceman said, it would just stick to her and continuously burn her, draining her of her chakra.

    With Katsuyu, Tsunade might actually have a chance. I dont know how Mei will be able to handle Tsunade while Katsuyu is spitting acid on her. Mei might be able to take out Katsuyu with a comination hidden mist and skilled mist, although a mini Katsuyu was able to survive the corrosive chakra of Naruto's eight-tailed form, in which case Mei would probably use the hidden mist technique to block Katsuyu's vision and focus on Tsunade.

    Overall I'd give Mei the edge.
     
  22. blackguyinpinksuit Well-Known Member

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    I love how mei can keep her hidden mist and boiling mist up...while spamming lava and suiton's...and not run out of chakra...is she a tailed beast or some shit.

    Tsunade's chakra reserves clearly surpasses mei's. Even while healing others and giving them her chakra she could keep strength of a hundred active and fight. Tsunade can regen and outlast mei easily and with hundreds of katsuyu's spraying acid and spreading over the area rapidly mei will be hard pressed not to be slathered in acid. Katsuyu can even seek mei out and give her whereabouts to mei during the chaos(splitting and spitting acid) and tsunade can end it there.

    Mei has never shown signs of having large chakra reserves so this multiple technique spamming stuff? Not gonna fly. Using all of her techniques in rapid succession and maintaining them will tire her out quick as hell.
     
  23. ueharakk Active Member

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    The lava didn't stick to susanoo or bee, it won't stick to tsunade. It can envelope and cover her, but it's shown that it does not work like how people think it works.

    White zetsu was able to move around in a room filled with Mei's acid. Tsunade's byakugo tanking feats of magatama craps all over white zetsu's durability/ implied regeneration.

    Tsunade wins this jank, she has the durability to just run through mei's attacks. Not that she will do that, but Mei's attacks will in no way keep tsunade at bay. Her lava isn't all that fast, tsunade is an expert in evasive manuevers, and tsunade can get to Mei even if the later stands in a space full of acid.

    The slugging queen lands a hit, Mei yells "kyaaaaa!" and gives up like she does in canon.
     
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    But why would she need to spam her hidden mist and solid fog jutsu? Once the mist is up, its gonna stay their. Theres no need for her to spam it to maintain them. I guess she would use it to occasionally as a top up.

    Your right about Tsunade's chakra reserves surpassing Mei's, but its not like Mei has a small chakra reserve. Her fighting style seems to involve spamming elemental techniques - its very taxing on her chakra, so she must have a pretty good chakra reserve to be able to fight the way she does.

    Tsunade might be able to outlast Mei but Mei might end the fight much quicker than you think.

    Well the lava was able to stick to those walls in the kage summit place. And susanoo is completely different to skin you know. Also, the lava that Roshi used against Bee is a different form of lava used by Mei.

    Your right about Tsunade having greater tanking feats then Zetsu, but the continuous burn of that acid and lava would drain Tsunade's chakra. I just dont see her being able to keep up her byakugou for as long as she was able to keep it up against Madara - the damage that Mei's lava and boil jutsu do are of a different nature than say Madara's susanoo swords and yasaka magatama.
     
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  25. walpurgis Burgoo Keep the Sorcerers in their place_!!

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    ^ finally a logical objective post

    *looks at the barrage of crap-fallacy arguements for Tsunade & Slug*

    Smh...screw it; Mei wins. Tsunade wont summon IC(BL)
     
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    There was really no need for this as I dont think anyone cares about whether you will respond to someones post or not. I think your underestimating Mei. And I dont know about anyone else, but I gave her the edge in this match-up but I said it would be tough.

    Btw when you said that Mei's lava couldn't burn through a wooden wall, are you trying to say that it wont burn through skin?
     
  27. SubtleObscurantist Crazy Fool

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    POW was responding to Lt. Iceman, who made a point of disparaging anyone who was claiming that Tsunade would win in variety of ways.
     
  28. tracytracy22 Member

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    Ah ok. This is why I like to include peoples quotes!
     
  29. Sans Bad Time

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    He was doing a satire of the pro-Mei post further up in the thread.

    He's saying that calling it lava and evoking images of real life lava is probably incorrect. Its feats within the Narutoverse aren't particularly impressive amongst top tier shinobi.
     
  30. tracytracy22 Member

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    Oh I understand your not suppose to apply real life stuff to naruto. And I guess your right about it not having any impressive feats although it was able to melt part of a semi-complete susanoo.



    top left corner :)
     

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