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Upcoming announcement on future of HVOA: please read!

Discussion in 'Art Contests and Competitions' started by Trinity, Jan 22, 2018.

  1. Trinity l’appel du vide

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    After much consideration and discussion we have decided that the Art Contests and Competitions will be archived and the HVoA will be merged into one art-centric section.

    With AoTW 95, AoTM 30, PoTF 233, SoTW 616 and PSoTW 70 there will be no more contests within the HVoA.

    That said however, we're happy to announce that on February 1st we'll be launching the Contest Central within the Anbu Central which will house the vast majority of the Naruto Forums contests and competitions. One thing to note though that this isn't a continuation or a reboot of the HVoA or contests in general, some contests will remain while others will be brand new or reworked with much more to come in the future.

    If there's any questions feel free to post them here or contact one of the Contest Central moderators; Trinity, Bontakun or White Wolf.

    We also want member input on the location of the art-centric section to be, is there a particular category you as the posters want it located?

    Thanks for reading!
     
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  2. Bontakun 生まれ変われる WOW WOW Moderator

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    I'm partial to moving it to the Mall section. Visual art, literature, and music are all creative efforts.
     
  3. Trinity l’appel du vide

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    This would work best.
     
  4. Avito Warden of the North

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    isnt there to anyway to make it reachable to more people i was unaware of this for a week about it when i first became active
     
  5. Trinity l’appel du vide

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    We could do alerts, announcements, etc.

    I can personally message you to see if you're interested in any contest going on, and you can also subscribe to the section for updates.
     
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  6. Avito Warden of the North

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    well the alrests will be good idea or we can add notice on the top like you did for this thread inbox or subscribing will only inform those who already know about it and those whom you know are interested not the other untouched member maybe a little greed of reward will get them to paticipate
     
  7. White Wolf the defeated Retired Staff

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    The C.C. will be in Anbu so at the very top of the forum which should help make it more visible to new users (and old).
     
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  8. Dayscanor The One

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    Noted. Do we still retain our points that we got through the previous contests, or is the counter set to 0 again?
     
  9. Trinity l’appel du vide

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    It's set to 0.
     
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  10. Trinity l’appel du vide

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    Definitely recommend a spending spree right now. I'll fill any request you have.
     
  11. Dayscanor The One

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    Don't think I have enough to spend it anyway tbh, but thanks for the info.
     
  12. Senjougahara Hitagi Well-Known Member

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    :hm

    this is kinda uh

    fucking a lot of ppl over, no? :dank
     
  13. Trinity l’appel du vide

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    ay, whatever

    forget what i said
     
  14. Senjougahara Hitagi Well-Known Member

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  15. Trinity l’appel du vide

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    HOWEVER

    it does fuck over the potential participants - you guys get a tremtendous headstart while (and i'm hoping new people will come on board) will have to start at 0 by default, no one would be on equal ground. this is why i had thought of restarting from 0, while of course feeling guilty by how others may feel about it

    basically it's a lose/lose situation

    but i'd rather not piss you lot off if you think the energy and effort you spent in HVOA is all in your points instead of the entries themselves
    i just don't know

    'point culture' honestly is something i'd discourage in this new section, if that makes any sense
     
  16. Senjougahara Hitagi Well-Known Member

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    why is some ppl having points a disadvantage to new participants tho

    if i have 0 points and narutofanxd2018 has 25, will he be able to purchase any more prizes than if i had 6 million points and he still had 25?

    i really don't follow that logic tbh

    at the very least the decision should have member input before it's finalized since they're the only ones losing out, the staff literally have anything whenever they want via preet's circlejerking so it doesn't affect them at all :dead
     
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    We should be able to retain any points we already earned. There's no reason for anyone to start at zero.

    Anyways, I look forward to participating in all non-gfx related contests.
     
  18. Senjougahara Hitagi Well-Known Member

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    maybe devalue current points so ppl can't just sit on them indefinitely, i could potentially get behind that depending on how it was done, but getting rid of them altogether is def over the top
     
  19. Trinity l’appel du vide

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    i heard you out, we obviously have a difference in opinion but to explain again:
    lemme elaborate: i don't want a bunch of people slobbering over points to be the main priority of section participation - i want the main priority to be about improvement and having fun while doing so

    you can have prizes be one incentive behind your motivation to participate, but not the only incentive

    of course, i can't control people and this is highly unrealistic: it's just an ideal i had in mind in order to encourage that kind of mindset throughout. it won't happen; it will never happen - points will rule the day, and that's fine, but i disagree with it on principle even before i became a mod

    if it's a shitty idea? okay, we don't do that and we do it you guys' way (which we're doing now)
     
  20. White Wolf the defeated Retired Staff

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    A full reset is something that puts everyone where the section aims to be - at the beginning. This isn't a continuation, not a reboot, not HVoA 2.0, and that's not what it's aiming to be. There's been so much turbulent history that a fresh start with incentive to participate should be the ideal for everyone.

    1 Month
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    HTML Usertitle
    - 3 Points
    175x350 Avatar
    - 12 Points
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    2 Months
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    HTML Usertitle
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    3 Months
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    - 9 Points
    HTML Usertitle
    - 7 Points
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    - 21 Points


    You can get prizes for as low as 3 pts, so it does seem like a non-issue worrying about points more than the direction of the section and the potential for growth it's going to provide.


    At the end of the day if it's hated someone will buckle and you'll get your points, but it is unfortunate that the section that's been asked for on multiple occasions is being put in second place over having a big number next to your points won.
     
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    How much points do I have now? Might as well go on a shopping spree.
     
  22. Senjougahara Hitagi Well-Known Member

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    you do realize i despise that mindset myself right? i've been pretty vocal about it here in the past

    but you still haven't told me what resetting the points will accomplish

    as long as points are a thing, there will be people who participate in contests solely to accumulate them, this won't change if you reset them, all you'll get that's different is some older members who have lost interest in contests grudgingly taking part again until they get enough and fucking off again

    but to eliminate the points > all mindset you'd need to eliminate points

    which unfortunately would also eliminate a large part of the potential activity, 'cause even for people who genuinely enjoy the contests in their own right, they're a good motivator for consistent participation

    hope i was clear that time
     
  23. Trinity l’appel du vide

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  24. White Wolf the defeated Retired Staff

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    8 from Anbu
     
  25. Itachі Man of The People

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    i don't think that's the case, it's just that there doesn't seem to be a solid reason for everyone to lose their points.
     
  26. Senjougahara Hitagi Well-Known Member

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    i can't help but scoff at the irony of being lectured by someone who participated in psotw every week solely for the points until their prizes became permanent via modship and immediately fucked off
     
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  27. Trinity l’appel du vide

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    i don't disagree with that notion, which is why i added that it's an incentive and i except it to be one

    why? it will accomplish equal ground (in points, not other factors)

    again you disagree - so i'm not going to continue my dance and no one's points will be reset, etc
     
  28. Trinity l’appel du vide

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    it's also not a continuation of hvoa - it was a way to dissociate from hvoa to begin with aswell, and while that's not a particularly strong reason, it was one
     
  29. Trinity l’appel du vide

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    these are just my opinions btw

    they're clearly awful, so let's move on
     
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    I'll take sparkles for 1 month for 5 points.

    And extend my html usertitle for another month with my remaining 3 points, pretty sure that's about to end as well.
     
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