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Urahara Kisuke vs Tobirama Senju

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome' started by uchihakil, Aug 9, 2018.

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  1. uchihakil

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    Which of the two geniuses will come out on top?

    Locatiin: Vandenreich

    Distance: 20m

    Intent: To kill

    Intel: None

    Speed equal

    Battle condition: Tobirama has his sword

    Restriction: Edo Tensei and Urahara's Bankai
     
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    Urahara is a man praised by Aizen and considered a threat by Yhwach.
    Tobirama is some guy forgotten in the shadows of the 4th hokage.

    Urahara takes this .
     
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    Haha no he isn’t. Name one good thing minato did that improved the state of the village when he was in power. He did literally nothing.

    His so called big advancement on hirashin was putting tags on Kunai, which is something tobirama dies and doesn’t even need to when he can use water as a medium which covers a much larger area.
     
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    He had Naruto which ensured the village would be the centerpiece for the series. :catshrug
     
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    Who is a special bullshit reincarnation lmao who minato was an absentee father to.
     
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    He ended the war basically
     
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    Be that as it may, if not for Naruto some other village would be the focus for the series. They all have Minato to thank for that. He made them important basically.

    And he couldn't help being absent, he was dead. Its not like in DB where Goku chooses to never be with his family.
     
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    It could literally have been anyone else. Minato isn’t responsible for naruto being a reincarnation. And you might as well credit literally everyone else who so much as gave naruto a compliment.

    He couldn’t pass a tailed beast to his son without fucking up.
     
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    By beating the shit out of the enemy, there was literally flee on sight orders for him and hes the entire reason the conflict ended as well as it did
     
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    No he isn’t lmao.

    Hiruzen was there. That’s why the village didn’t fall.

    Never forget that



    Gai’s dad also took an entire generation of seven swordsmen out.
     
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    >Tobirama
    >Guy who invented the fucking Hirashin technique, Shadow Clone technique and Edo Tensei technique
    >defeated a Mangekyo Sharingan User before he had even peaked as a teenager
    >infamous for his combat skills even among peers like Hashirama and Hiruzen and Minato
    >"did nothing"
     
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    Is Kisuke faster than Tobi? (bar FTG) Just curious.
     
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    Kage Bunshin+Hiraishingiri+Seal Ability gives Tobirama the win

    He have also more versatility

    Shame on Kishi that Tobirama did not use some Super strong Suiton Jutsu.The fight against Juubito would have been the best place.Suiton was so underrated in Naruto
     
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    Theres no proof Dai even killed any of the 7 swordsman lmao

    The war was mostly with the cloud village anyway since thats who we see them fighting 90% of the time
     
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    >Speed equal

    What's Tobirama's attack stat like? Because I know he had fuck all for powerful techniques and was more a threat to 'normal' shinobi without enhanced durability and alike.
     
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    Threat enough that Madara considered him a peer even after he had EMS and felt the need to use Susanoo to block his technique.

    At least island level, Gojuu Kibakufuda is country level at least
     
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    Without tobirama there would be no hiraishin.What Minatos trademark was
     
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    Scans for context.

    I remember Madara in a heavily nerfed condition beating the shit out of Edo Tobirama and he had no access to EMS techs at the time. Though I'd wager Hirashin could counter it via teleportation anyway.

    Madara's durability without Susano'o is trash.
     
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    Madara could fight Hashi in CQC, same guy who is >> Tsunade in strength. Look at what the white Zetsu can do with shit cells from Hashi and Tobi’s Zetsu half took a KCM Rasengan and came out fine.

    Tobirama’s chakra flex alone had EMS Sauce sweating and looking worried

    Mads wasn’t really nerfed and could still use Susanoo
     
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    Madara tanked a punch from V2 Raikage & base Tsunade, he could also rag doll SM Nardo. KCM Nardo didn't think he could survive a blow from a serious V2 Raikage. Fuck if I know what those characters stats are these days, though.
     
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    Naah that wasn't "a heavily nerfed madara" as you put it, the same madara neg diffed 1- 9 bijuus and also EMS sasuke, hell tobirama lasted longer than sauce, that version of madara had limbo and limbo alone is a demi god tier move, Cuz only demi gods and god level characters can combat limbo.
     
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    Said version of Madara was probably him at his strongest prior to becoming the Juubi jin.
     
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    Didn't Madara make this judgement prematurely? Tsunade's physical strength also isn't that great in the grand scheme of things.
    Fair on this though. I remember the dude being blind and fighting using only melee.
     
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    A beaten up Madara neg diffed tobirama. This is like saying hiruzen with his shurikens was a threat to Juubito.
     
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    And yet minato never even fought the biggest player on that side.
    Who had sage mode and rinnegan techniques.

    Not an argument you want to use when Madara and obito shat on minato.
     
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    So this thread has turned into a comparison thread between minato and tobirama?

    Lets get back on topic please, majority are backing tobirama so anyone backing Urahara should come forth with a proper argument.
     
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    Madara stated the ET was holding tobirama back and tobirama states himself that he’s out of practice.

    Plus Madara did have EMS techniques. And rinnegan ones, like limbo. And sage mode.

    It’s his second strongest version.
     
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    In 20m, Urahara will have the upper hand to win on one thing and one thing only: Intelligence and hundreds of years of experience. Ok that is two things.

    I would expect them to exchange some attacks but eventually it comes down to Kido. Urahara takes this with mid-difficulty.
     
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