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US police shoot almost 1,000 people dead every year, figures show

Discussion in 'The NF Café' started by makeoutparadise, Feb 14, 2019.

  1. makeoutparadise I will have my revenge

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  2. MrGayNight Well-Known Member

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    This copy-paste looks fucked up.
     
  3. reiatsuflow Well-Known Member

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    Huh.
     
  4. Godly Giraffe - King of the Uverworld أفضل صديق هو العودة

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    What happens when criminals get ownership of guns, legally or illegally.
     
  5. makeoutparadise I will have my revenge

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    I think the second amendment kicks in
     
  6. Euraj X I I I

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    There's a lot of shootings because there's a lot of people... Later: That's not going to change unless there's a major change to police culture or gun ownership. All they had to say.
     
  7. reiatsuflow Well-Known Member

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    Article seemed to go back and forth on how impactful training actually is compared with the population and gun ownership glut, but this bit about training is coincidentally interesting in light of a recent thread about someone being shot by police inside of his car -

     
  8. Voyeur Well-Known Member

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    That's only a fraction of gun related homicides. The media only reports on police shootings because they generate outrage and views. It's a nothing burger. If people want guns, they better accept the fact that there's gonna be consequences to drawing gun or having a gun present during a police intervention.
     
  9. Euraj X I I I

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    Definitely, and that's not the only study I've seen with results that show correlation between changes to policies and reductions in use of force, and I think that argument shootings can't be reduced without a massive cultural shift is malarkey. There needs to be enough of a push to change certain policies, and like has happened on a few other issues, the change in attitude will come afterward.
     
  10. wibisana still newbie

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    If this true. Cops kill 300K/yr
    Let say other kill 200K/yr

    A bit much isnt it?
     
  11. Pliskin Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a national emergency.
     
  12. Chelydra Devour them all.

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    Only a thousand? The cafe and the media make it sound like they are gunning down people left and right. :maybe
     
  13. wibisana still newbie

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    1000 * 365 = 365 K/yrs

    Heart desease (no 1 killer in US) kill 500-600K/yr.

    "Only" is understatement

    I misread it NVrmind
     
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    Relatively speaking, they are. Here in Germany, police killed 14 people in 2017 (don’t have statistics for 2018), which actually represented an increase from the years prior (11 in 2016, and less than 10 per year from 2000-2015). Never understood how Americans of all people, with their government distrust and all, seem to be ok with their police being as awfully trained as they are.
     
  15. Fang Well-Known Member

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    Nope.
     
  16. Matto Chosen One

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    It's not a "nothing burger." We should expect high standards of our police officers, who are public officials with advanced training. Police in other countries seem to be able / willing to de-escalate situations more often.

    Many killed by police were unarmed, or had some other weapon other than a gun (e.g., a knife). US Police are trigger-happy.
     
  17. Voyeur Well-Known Member

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    Except it is. Are police trigger happy? Yeah, but so is American culture in general. You cant compare American police vs other countries police when it comes to during police intervention because there are too many variables to quantify, especially when it comes to culture. Police shootings aren't the major problem right now, it's mass shootings and it's everyday gun homicides. Focusing on something that only happens a fraction of time isn't going to solve the general problem which is gun violence.
     
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    Seems like our media and politicians have a special ability at getting the public wrapped up in adding a cultural narrative to everything. So, shitty police can't just be shitty police, but calling police shit has to also be an attack on American values, conservatism, white people, mayonnaise and whatever other garbage that stops people from viewing a problem with people that look like them objectively.
     
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