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V-Jump goes full retard (WRT Boohan)

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by JayDZ3, Dec 30, 2018.

  1. Hazard Black♠️Vegeta

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    Toeiland kid buu is not stronger than all other buus.
    buutenks played with ssj3 goku and goku looked actualy scared.
    buuhan>buutenks.
    goku never said confidently that he and vegeta could beat normal super buu while he was confident ultimate gohan could do it even with piccolo , goten and trunks absorbed.
    fact is Toei still followed Toriyamas powerscaling but what a surprise , they failed at making sense of their filler.
     
  2. DlAMONDZ Well-Known Member

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    Kid Buu was stated as being the strongest buu by the omniscient narrator

    Toei SSJ3 Goku and Kid Buu > Buuhan
     
  3. Plague Punches People in the Face

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    But even in Toei fillers SSJ3 Goku was getting wrecked by non-serious Buutenks.
     
  4. DlAMONDZ Well-Known Member

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    Goku wasn't serious himself

    As evidence by fighting Kid Buu who was stated on multiple occasions of being faster, stronger and having better regen than every other buu before him

    The narrator is all knowing and never wrong
     
  5. Hazard Black♠️Vegeta

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    thats irrelevant.
    its not like them contradicting themself is something new.
     
  6. Plague Punches People in the Face

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    Goku was struggling to survive against Buutenks. You've got to have a sort of willful ignorance to think otherwise.
     
  7. Crimson Dragoon Silver Wheel

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    DIAMONDZ is an obvious troll and dupe of Fluttershit
     
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  8. MShadows Deathbat Moderator

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    Guys, stop with the fuckery. Not even TOEIland Goku could win against Buuhan.

    The guy who wrote the article is retarded. The original, canon Goku from the manga would get killed on the spot by Super Buu.
     
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  9. Spider-Man --- On a forums break

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    What makes you think they aren't telling you that:torilol
     
  10. DlAMONDZ Well-Known Member

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    And you're ignoring blatant statements because they don't fit your headcanon as per usual

    Multiple characters including the narrator said Kid Buu was the strongest and that's that
     
  11. Reznor Well-Known Member Administrator

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    He was also going to permanently fine with gohan to best buutenks. He clearly couldn't beat buutenks. He was worried af about Buu getting him when gohan dropped the earring
     
  12. Plague Punches People in the Face

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    You're the one ignoring Goku's statements throughout the arc.



    I use to feel sorry for you with all that red on your reps. But now I see why.
     
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  13. lol 4th dimension reiatsu Well-Known Member

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    This is the same as the editor's comments in the last page of a weekly manga.

    And Toriyama probably doesn't remember/ cares about powerscalling from 1994 so why should we care about some nobody editors?
     
  14. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    even in the sub?

    If that’s the case then the fact that it is:

    1. the narrator himself

    2. The most recent statement in a animeverse filled with contradictions

    Means it’s probably true and the rest was retconned. So Kid Boo = #1 in Toeiland

    I don’t care about what vjump said btw
     
  15. PFM18 Well-Known Member

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    and what were those comments?
     
  16. Blade DAN DAN™

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    movie 13 ssj3 goku dragon fists every buu :tupac
     
  17. Godly Giraffe - King of the Uverworld أفضل صديق هو العودة

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    Vegeta when ripping Good Boo's pod:

    "Oh no, by removing Gohan and the others we made him too weak! Better turn him into an uber powerful kid Boo so Kakarrot can have a challenge again!"
     
  18. Hazard Black♠️Vegeta

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    „God was last seen: 1 minute ago“

    fuck , im too late:gglife
     
  19. Godly Giraffe - King of the Uverworld أفضل صديق هو العودة

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    what'd you want me for anyway?
     
  20. Hazard Black♠️Vegeta

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    it was a joke.
     
  21. Rax The Evil Within The Embers

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    Why retcon this?

    LEL
     
  22. Revan Reborn Redeemed

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    Just making My LR SSJ3 Goku ultimate.
     
  23. The Saiyan Prince Vegeta Well-Known Member

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    SS3 Goku on par with Buuhan? That weed must've been really good. :tupac
     
  24. Plague Punches People in the Face

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    You spelled Meth wrong.
     
  25. Reznor Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Using just anime as your reference It is possible to believe Buucolo was weaker than Goku, since Goku acted relieved when Buu reverted from Buutenks to Buucolo. Unlike the manga, Goku didn't specify his relief was because Gohan could take him now and Gohan was beat up at the time, so it's easy to assume Piccolo nerfed Super Buu instead.
    But these this doesn't seem to be an instance of anime having a different Goku like the movies, this seem to be an instance of the anime not being as explicit as the manga so there's no reason.

    It's also possible to be Kid Buu's full power was around of near base Super Buu's. Considering that Buff Buu = Kid Buu + South Kai > Super Buu, it's reasonable to infer that Super Buu wasn't even twice as strong if he was, and there was some consistent underestimating of Kid Buu.

    There's just no reason to believe that Super Buu, Buutenks or Buuhan are comparable to SSJ3 Goku no matter which version you watched.
     
  26. Namikaze Minato Flash Well-Known Member

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    I always thought Goku being relieved that Buutenks reverting down to Buuicolo was because he was back at a low enough level for Gohan to defeat him. It would make no sense for Goku to think he could take him when base Super Buu was enough to make him think he and Vegeta fighting together would still result in them dying. I’m not really sure how absorbing Piccolo would weaken Buu as well...
     
  27. Juub Well-Known Member

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    I agree wholeheartedly with the second part of the post.

    Third part as well. That's the issue we have. You could with some mental gymnastics justify Goku as being above Super Buu but Buuhan? That's just a no.
     
  28. OLK Well-Known Member

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    I always assumed Kid Boo was better than Super Boo. His regen seemed much faster than Super Boos and he shrugged off absolutely everything thrown at him like it was just a game. Goku was in over his head, got cocky thinking Kid Boo would be weaker than Super Boo, and got his ass beat to the point where he verbally wished he had potara again. I took it as Kid Boo and Super Boo were very close in power, with Kid Boo having the much better regen and the chaotic behavior giving him the edge. Both were stronger than Goku though
     
  29. Juub Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much my thoughts. People keep saying Goku was equal to Kid Buu when he quite clearly wasn't. Kid Buu ended up laughing at him towards the middle of the fight and stopped taking him seriously.
     
  30. Reznor Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Goku thinking he could beat Kid Buu was both overestimation of himself (couldn't use SS3 as easy alive). Regardless, he didn't think he could do this against Super Buu, but did think he could do this against Kid Buu.

    There was underestimation of Kid Buu too though. We don't know if Kid Buu's full power (that was pushing back the Spirit Bomb) was a bit weaker than Super Buu or maybe stronger, but the level of power he showed Goku most of the battle wasn't up to Super Buu.

    Kid Buu having faster regen is legitimate though. Kid Buu form is pure Buu so it's going to emphasis Buu traits more than the others (as opposed to magic w/ Daikaioshi or raw power w/ Gohan)
     
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