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Vegeta VS Ichigo

Discussion in 'Manga/Anime Battledome' started by Superrazien, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. Superrazien

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    Read first

    Vegeta from Namek Saga VS Ichigo from SS. In a battle of who got the biggest power ups in those arcs. Lets take a look back if you forgot.

    Vegeta

    After the battle with Goku and at the start if the Namek Saga his power level was far above Dodoria and about equal to non transformed Zarbon.

    After Transformed Zarbon kicked his ass Vegetas PL went from weaker than Zarbon to powerful enough to take a massive beating from Reccome and get some good shots in.

    Then after that fight his power jump amazingly high, as after that battle he kicked Jaces ass, and then he could take on Freiza 1st form with a PL of about 530,000. Reccome couldnt have been more than 60,000 and Jace more than 80,000.

    Then went Krillin shot Vegeta in the heart, and he was healed his PL must of jumped to over 1,000,000 since he was stronger than Piccolo who had a PL of over 1,000,000 since he took on Freiza form 2 whos PL was 1,000,000.

    In Conclusion Vegetas PL went from around 30-40,000 to about 1,500,000 in one arc.

    Ichigo

    At the Start of the SS Arc Ichigo was about a 3rd of 4th Rank since he took Ikkaku on and Ikkaku was probably suppose to be ranked higher than that.

    After that Battle Ichigo Takes on Renji and Wins which is a Lieutenant rank.

    After that battle when he rests up he is able to beat Kenpachi which is a Captain rank, but his power was probably like a Mid Captain.

    After that and his little encounter with Byakuya he trains with Yorichi and gets Bankai in about 2 days. He is then able to stop that Phoenix thing that has the power of 1,000 Zanpactos and then he beats Byakuya who is probably one of the higher captain levels.

    Sorry about the length.
     
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  2. fightingu_dengakuman

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    Veggy of course...even current Ichigo's power level in a scouter would only display around 130, and that is assuming he's on Roshi's level (e.g. can destroy the moon). Ichigo in 1st page of chapter 1 is highschool student, so power level would be 3 or 4 (since farmer with gun = 5). Not that much of a boost compared to Veggy's.
     
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    Vegeta went from being dirt(Dodoria level) to being one of the strongest people in the Universe. He wins.
     
  5. Superrazien

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    Some of you guys miss the point its not who would beat who but who do you think got the biggest power up in accordance to their series. Think of it like Vegeta is like a Level 3 and in the Namek Saga he goes to Level 10, thats a 7 Level Increase, now think of Ichigo as a Level 2 but he goes to Level 10 same level but Ichigos increased more, doesnt mean Vegeta still cant kick his ass though.
     
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    People really don't read the thread title.

    Anyway I would have to say Vegeta increased the most. In the begging he was below Zarbon, in the end he was above Freezas first few forms which was far above Zarbons.
     
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    whopps missed that 1st part

    well ichigo went from a noob to peak of shinigami

    vegeta cant compare with that

    it's like going ssj

    Regardless of Vegeta's power-up he's still in a normal state where as Ichigo is in bankai state, transformed, at the end of their respective arcs.
     
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    Vegeta wins this with ease.
     
  9. Seto Kaiba

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    I'd say Vegeta. He took a huge leap in power during the Namek Saga. He went from being a weakling among Freeza's men to being able to match Zarbon transformed, then able to match with Freeza in his initial form, had another power boost after Dende healed him, and yet another when he came back to life. That's 24,000 to at least somewhere in the 100,000s.
     
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    Vegeta went from being a low life servant for freeza, to someone who outright tried to kill him in his last form. Ichigo can(n)ot beat this.
     
  11. ez

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    Actually Vegeta had absolutely no chance against Freiza in his final form even at 25 per cent.

    Ichigo went from being a 3rd/2nd seat level to being what only a few shinigamis can achieve, a bankai using captain level shinigami.
     
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    Actually, Frieza humiliated Vegeta at 1%.
     
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    Some things to keep in mind:

    At the start of the Ichigo vs. Kenpachi, Ichigo's best blow only gave Kenpachi the equivalent of a papercut. Then Ichigo synchronized with Zangetsu and was able to deeply wound Kenpachi, even after Ken removed his power dampening eyepatch.

    So pre-synch Ichigo gave Kenpachi a (let's say) half-an-inch deep cut.

    Post-synch Ichigo gave unhindered Kenpachi a wound that was (again, by my estimation) half-a-foot deep.

    So the wound post-synch Ichigo gave a suped up Kenpachi was 12 times deeper than pre-synch Ichigo gave a reiatsu-restrained Kenpachi. Now, I'm not saying the depth of the wound necessarily has a 1-to-1 relation with Ichigo's power up, but I think saying Ichigo's raw power went up 5-10 times when he syched with Zangetsu is a pretty fair statement.



    Now, how much did Ichigo's hollow side taking over increase his power during the Byakuya fight? Well, if the fight with Grimmjow is applicaple (I don't recall Ichigo having any non-vizard related powerups between SS and now, so it should be applicaple) it's not too shabby.

    Here's the results of Grimmjow getting hit with Ichigo's regular Getsuga Tenshou:


    Here's him after getting hit with Hollow Ichigo's Getsuga Tenshou:

    (Note: Grimmjow's arm was already missing)

    Given the difference in injury done to Grimmjow, I'd say Hollow Ichigo has two to three times as much reiatsu as regular Ichigo (we'll say 2.5 times for simplicity).

    So, if Ichigo's original power jump in the SS arc was 5-10 times, than, when his hollow side took over, his power was 12.5 to 25 times stronger than he was originally. I'm not DBZ knowledgable enough to say how this compare's to Vegeta's powerups, but powerlevel readings should make comparison relatively simple.

    (I didn't take Bankai into account, because that was a speed boost which, while useful in fights, isn't directly related to strength/attack power)
     
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    it is directly related to power because

    -getsuga in shikai = canceled out by a privion espada

    -a getsuga tenshou in bankai, a wound on a 6th espada. Huge power difference.
     
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    Well lets look at it this way,Vegeta went from being as strong as one of Freeza's peons to being stronger than any of them with the ability to perhaps push Freiza to his 4th form.His 3rd form could have debatably taken him out when you consider where his power would be.

    Ichigo went from barely beating a 3rd seat to taking down two of the most fearsome captains in the whole Soul Society.He didn't even have to use Zanpakatou to beat 3 vice captains.He was probably the 4th most powerful person on the side of Soul Society once the arc was said and done.

    They both would have been raped by the main enemies of both arcs so it's hard to judge,but the thing about Ichigo's leap is that he went from barely beating a 3rd seat to probably being able to slaughter every single one with his Shikai by the end of the arc.Just the displays of power Ichigo put on towards the end of the arc from where he was at the beggining,I think he went up way more than Vegeta.
     
  16. The Internet

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    Tough tough tough.

    Vegeta went from a little runt compared to even base Frieze, to beating all but Frieza's final form at it's weakest.

    Ichigo went from barely beating Ikkaku, who is far stronger than a 3rd seat IMO and was honestly lieutanant level, barely beating Renji whom is easily one of the strongest lieutanants, beating Kenpachi, whom is mid captain, and going one on one and more or less winning against Byakura, who is arguebly one of the strongest captains.

    He went from barely being able to control his reiatsu, to gaining bankai with only 3 days of training. Bankai being a state which only a hand full of shinigami gain.

    I think Ichigo wins
     
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    It depends how you look at it, ratio wise, or who just got way more destructive power at the end. Ratio wise, I think Ichigo wins this, but just by who got more power all together to do more damage, Vegeta definantly gets it. a 1,00,000 PL increase is more than anything Ichigo would ever feel or even reach.
     
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    There is no PL system in Bleach so there is no increase like that but if you want something like that...

    Ichigo's bankai itself already put him on a 5-10x stronger level than at his base form, which was several times stronger than VCs and probably close/equivalent to Kenpachi w/ eyepatch on.
     
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    THat is why Ichigo wins ratio wise.

    I meant if someone is has a PL of a million, that is way stronger than anythin Ichigo will ever be, that is what I meant by flat out who got more destructive power not including a ratio to themselves.
     
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