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Viktor Orbán: our duty is to protect Hungary's Christian culture

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  1. Saishin Hajimemashite

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    has said the main task of his new government will be to preserve Hungary’s security and Christian culture.

    The hardline rightwinger was re-elected for a as prime minister in April after a strong anti-immigration message secured a landslide victory. He was asked to form a government by the president, János Áder, on Monday.

    Orbán, one of the of immigration into Europe by mainly Muslim people fleeing war and poverty in the Middle East and Africa, saw his campaign, helped by his Fidesz , of the electorate, particularly in rural areas.

    Fidesz holds 133 of 199 seats in the parliament, which will enable the party to pass any laws, even those that require two-thirds support.

    Parliament will hold its first session on Tuesday, where Orbán will be officially re-elected prime minister.

    In a radio interview on Friday, Orbán said his government was building a “Christian democracy”.

    “We are working on building an old-school Christian democracy, rooted in European traditions ... We believe in the importance of the nation and in we do not want to yield ground to any supranational business or political empire,” he said.

    Orbán has accused non-governmental organisations funded by the Hungarian-born of political meddling and actively supporting immigration.

    He said any organisation involved in the migration issue would have to seek clearance from national security authorities.

    One of the first laws expected to be passed by parliament is a , which would impose a 25% tax on foreign donations to NGOs that back immigration.

    Soros has said the attacks against him are “lies and distortions” designed to create a false enemy.

     
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  2. Island In the Sun

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    The obvious counterpart to that nowadays secularism is more of a European tradition than 'Christian democracy'.

    But the far-right is pretty selective with their countries' histories, so... :catshrug
     
  3. Chie Banned

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    It's important to remember that the Hungarians were part of the Iron Curtain and a recently liberated nation. Their citizens are very conscious of the consequences of international meddling undermining their democratic sovereignty.
     
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  4. Saishin Hajimemashite

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    Well yeah east european nations are very sensitive when it comes to their national sovereignty.
     
  5. Le Male Absolu Well-Known Member

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    Nothing wrong with that. A leader like Erdogan is way more devoted to protect and promote Islam than the Hungarian government with Christianism.
     
  6. Cardboard Tube Knight Medic! Oh wait that is me

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    How about we stop promoting national religion...
     
  7. San Juan Wolf They're even better when you're dead

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    Funny how everyone in the middle east would disagree with you there : P
     
  8. IchLiebe Da Sage

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    and yet want to be treated like superiors in foreign countries.
     
  9. Cardboard Tube Knight Medic! Oh wait that is me

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    What’s that got to do with anything?

    Oh, I forgot. You didn’t have a real reply.
     
  10. Pliskin Well-Known Member

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    Yeah no, lets not take dictatorial Turkey as the lower bar for what is still okay.
     
  11. mr_shadow Minister of State Security Moderator

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    I think we need to protect Europe's Indo-European language identity too.

    So we better get rid of these Finno-Ugric elements. Let them move back to Russia or wherever they came from. :pek
     
  12. Chie Banned

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    I remember the day Orban was elected. BBC was crying about how it was a sad day for Democracy.

    And I'm sitting there like...how is it a sad day for Democracy when he was Democratically elected? The Hungarian people want him to lead their country.
     
  13. Le Male Absolu Well-Known Member

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    The thing is Erdoğan was elected and the majority of the population support. It's the same in Hungary. They support the orientation decided by their pm.
     
  14. Alwaysmind Lunesdi al vespre.

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    Well a 100 years ago, this was its flag:



    I may be blind, but those appear to be crosses.
     
  15. jayjay³² Drug Addict

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    What’s wrong with having a national religion? Both secular and religious states can coexist in 2018.
     
  16. Island In the Sun

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    The double cross in Hungary's coat of arms is St. Stephens' Cross which was allegedly given to King Stephen I by the Pope, the first King of Hungary.

    The symbol is more about Hungarian nationalism than Christianity, just like the St. George's Cross is an English symbol more than a Christian one.
     
  17. Alwaysmind Lunesdi al vespre.

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    Yes, the symbol is a national one, but it implies a Christian heritage nonetheless.
     
  18. Island In the Sun

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    So?
     
  19. Cardboard Tube Knight Medic! Oh wait that is me

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    Well the state abuses the religion for extra control is the main issue. The US doesn’t even have a religion and they show favor to Christianity and try to one in such blatant ways. It’s best to treat religions as totally separate from state.
     
  20. Alwaysmind Lunesdi al vespre.

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    So, so its not like Hungary's christian heritage is somehow taboo and secret. :lmao

    He can always change the flag, reinstate the monarchy.
     
  21. Alwaysmind Lunesdi al vespre.

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    Fixed for you, no need to thank me.

    That would be true in most cases, though not for the Vatican since one cannot exist without the other.
     
  22. Eros オカマ

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    I see nothing wrong with it personally, as long as it's only like it is in places like the UK. The Queen is the head of the Church of England, and the Church of England is the established state religion. However, you can be a Briton and be a Catholic, Muslim, atheist, or whatever. That's different from a place in which you must practice the state religion or suffer consequences.
     
  23. Cardboard Tube Knight Medic! Oh wait that is me

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    That’s true. The Catholics should have nipped this shit in the bud when it started, alas we could only kill them for heresey so fast.
     
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    Public burning at the stake? Sounds a little medieval to bring it back, but if Hungary really wants to... :LOS
     
  25. Cardboard Tube Knight Medic! Oh wait that is me

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    I was thinking feeding them to the lions. Let's make it a family event.
     
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    Ad bestias. A Roman Empire tradition from the gladiator games. An excellent choice indeed. :quite
     
  27. Junta1987 The Skeptic

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    good luck with convincing states like Saudi Arabia or Iran to give up Islam as a state religion
     
  28. Megaharrison Eternal President of the Cafe Advisor

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    Orban is the hero Europe needs but doesn't deserve
     
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  29. San Juan Wolf They're even better when you're dead

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    Just that most refugees coming to Europe at the moment would probably not agree with you there. To assume a libertiarian secularist atttiude as the single party line in that case would be naive.
     
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    Not Putin?
     

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