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VIZ Translation for the marines reacting to the Big Mom/Kaido conversation

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by Sir Curlyhat, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. Sir Curlyhat Well-Known Member

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    Basically the marines are unsure of what force could possibly stop a meeting between the two, and are questioning if the Warlords or the Admirals would pull through with such a task.
     
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  2. Superstars Well-Known Member

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    Why didn't you post Kizaru openly volunteering to go, trans?.:tomha
     
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  3. tejas8055 ☻☻☻☻☻

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    Because his boss Akainu was scared of Samurai who in turn are scared of Kaido.
     
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    This shouldn’t be too much of a surprise. A yonko is individually stronger than an admiral or shichibukai (excluding Mihawk).

    Kizaru thinking he can stop 2 yonko is slighty funnier than Buggy thinking he can do it.
     
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  5. Kishido Hunter

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    Give me the VIZ translation about the Rock/Lock pirates
     
  6. Sir Curlyhat Well-Known Member

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  7. Admiral Kizaru One Piece Expert

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    I don't see how this changes a thing? Admirals & Warlords are being talked as the possible forces that can stop the Emperors meeting by some random scrub marine in the background.


    So a character statement when it's from Kizaru should be ignored and laughed at yet this background character statement from some fodder marine who likely has vastly less experienced or knowledge about the great powers in the world than an experienced campaigner like Kizaru should be taken as gospel & fact.

    The double standards & cognitive dissonance on this topic continues to astound me.
     
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  8. Sir Curlyhat Well-Known Member

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    Kizaru asks if he should head out and he's drawn as if he's looking at Akainu as he's asking the question, so it's more or less implied that he's in the same room as Akainu as he's receiving the news. Doesn't mean that he would go by himself though, it's basically just asking if they should make a move, and that he's ready to be part of the team that would be making the said move. The team could have a number of Admirals/Warlords in it, that would be up to Akainu to decide, if he were to give the order.

    I don't see Kizaru's willingness to be involved as being much different than Doflamingo's or Jack's confidence when dealing with Admirals. Not saying that the gap in strength between all of these characters is comparable, just that a certain caliber of characters, with a certain personality, tend to not back out from tackling difficult tasks, that may or may not be above their pay grade.
     
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    It's pretty obvious that Kizaru was talking about stopping the Emperor's meeting - not defeating the pair of them at the same time as some clowns on here think - something that someone of his vast power would easily be able to do, especially as we've received witnessed first hand the competency of team Meme.


    Here's an idea ..... how about we assess each character statement individually, looking at the context of them and the credibility of the person saying them instead of taking a blanket approach to accepting or denying them?
     
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  10. Superstars Well-Known Member

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    Akainu clearly stated that they don't know about the Samurai there and it's later confirmed that it's outside their jurisdiction.
    The word "scared" isn't in any vocab of Red Dog's or does anyone describe him as such in no translations.
     
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  11. Pocalypse Well-Known Member

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    Can you post the pages of:

    > Kizaru page
    > Kaido x Big Meme convo
    > Lucci talking about the CDs

    or just the whole chapter :defeat
     
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    The word was shown in pics when he was about to get punched by WB or when Shanks stopped him. He even dropped a sweat over there.
     
  13. Superstars Well-Known Member

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    Kizaru was only talking about intercepting their meeting at Wano. Those beleiving one admiral could take two of the world powers on at the same time is goofy.
     
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    You're kidding right? Akainu was talking mess to whitebeard and his scumbag kids all day. And he still went after Luffy when Shanks showed up.

    Actually read the story.
     
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  15. Sir Curlyhat Well-Known Member

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    Obviously. However we can see from Akainu's immediate intervention that he fails to really properly account for the situation that he'd get himself involved with. Marching in the enemy territory, having to deal with the warriors of Wano on top of that.

    Kizaru says that he's ready to head out an makes his services available for this mission, but it up to Akainu to decide who else would be part of the team taking on this task , or if it's even feasible at all, which he ends up concluding it is not in the end.

    Of course we are going to do that, it's just healthy to point out that condifence in one's ability does not guarantee success.
















     
  16. Bernkastel Welcome child of man

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    Can't wait for the next chapters to come..these will be fun times in OL :tearesa
     
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    Well yes, unless something is depicted happening on panel nothing is guaranteed or certain. That goes for life as well, not just this manga.

    But I trust you'll be consistent and from here onwards maintain & apply your newly acquired sense of "healthy scepticism" throughout every single statement uttered in OP by anyone that hasn't actually either taken place or been drawn in the manga to the extent of making a new thread on it to remind everyone on here about it.
     
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    The translation does tell a different story than the other ones.

    It doesnt imply that the Admirals or Warlords can stop the Yonko alliance. The soldier questions what kind of force can stop the alliance at all.

    Kizaru alone would never be enough to scare away a Yonko with his commanders.
     
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    Interesting. Can you post the convo between Garp and the rest regarding Kaido and Big mom’s convo?
     
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    We literally had a yonkou-in-waiting crew scared away by the possibility of facing Sakazuki & some fodder marines.
     
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  21. Sir Curlyhat Well-Known Member

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    I always try to do that. I managed to avoid the Doffy = Admiral level wave when that was a thing. In this case though, like i said, it's not even clear that Kizaru would have been sent with no other significant support, or that he thought of himself as being enough to begin with.
     
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    Blackbeard? It took him one whole year after that to be considered a Yonkou .-.
     
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    Hence the term "Yonkou-In-Waiting".

    Plus I assume Kizaru would go with better backup than Akainu did then. At any rate, it's the closest example there is of an event like that happening in the manga.
     
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    hI honestly don't see what's new here, isn't this the same meaning we already had on release day?
    A marine wonders what kind of force could stop this meeting and speculates if it could be Admirals or the Shichibukai.

    He doesn't know and even if he
    thought he did it's a background character hyping a major upcoming event not Oda sending coded messages to OL tier specialists.
     
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    In one of the first translations of the chapters I think that the marines say it like "We have warlords and admirals and that's it!" with the marines in the background sweating thus the viz translation makes sense.

    Saying it like "admirals?! warlords?!" sounds less confident than "the admirals plus warlords might be able to do something about that meeting". :p
     
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    I think you got that the other way around.

    If the fodder Marine said both parties were needed for the meeting then that'd make it less confident but he's just mentioning 2 possibilities, Admirals or Warlords, seperating the two because those are the only options he would know about.
     
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    Honestly guys you gotta stop thinking this marine dude is thinking about power levels and tier lists like we do in the OL countless of times. He's just throwing out the factions he'd only know about from his POV.
     
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    In that translation the marines don't say admirals or warlords and nothing about the dialogue really seems to specify that they're being named as different options in the sense that if one group is given that task then the other isn't. They might have meant it that way and they might not have meant it that way. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for them to be freaking out if they were confident that one of those groups can do that task without the other group since they could simply then send both groups. Making it an easy task.
     
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    Well, fortunately for this worried Marine, the Pirate Samurai Ninja Mink Alliance will take care of derailing this meeting, neither Admiral or Shichibukai necessary.
     
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    Pretty much this. Not everything has to do with muh powerlevels.


    Btw, you ready for Monday? Can't believe it but I'm actually cautiously optimistic that we can go further than I had initially thought.



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