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WA Gaara vs Itachi

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by JuicyG, Nov 10, 2018.

  1. JuicyG Well-Known Member

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    WA Garaa should win here.....his sand is more than capable of blocking amaterasu as it did in canon and once sand get's grinded up susanoo will be buried. Genjustsu is a non factor since Graa can use sand eye
     
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    Under these stipulations Gaara mid-diffs. What counterplay is there for Itachi when full knowledge, such a long distance, and the sand's canonical resistance to Amaterasu exist? The Yasaka Beads? I highly doubt they can pierce a shield Madara's Susano'o clones failed to.

    Meanwhile, in contrast, Desert: Hand is a good bit larger than Itachi's Susano'o, and he doesn't have the stamina to keep it up against continuous waves of sand anyhow-as soon as it falls, its game over.
     
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    gaara is portrayed around the level of rasa. Itachi is portrayed as someone that can beat/kill a sannin.
    So while gaara does counter itachi well,he goes down eventually.
    Yamata or genjutsu are a few ways to go about it.
     
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    When conditions are overwhelmingly in the others favor, a simple argument of portrayal that only applies under neutral conditions doesnt matter much
     
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    Itachi can end it in numerous ways: Yata Totsuka Yasaka Beads (that has equal if not more power than a Bijudama given they were thrown at the same time amounting to parity in terms of portrayal.) Genjutsu (through crows or simply look at his third eye.) Mental, and physical speed to blitz him before he puts up his defenses with any of the above.
     
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    It needs to be open season cause you mofo have been trying it with gaara these past few days.


    In what universe is Itachi blitzing gaara? In what universe? Where is that feat that he’s faster then V2 Ei? Or point blank Explosives? Or blindside susanno attacks?


    Yasaka beads being on par with a Bjiuudama? What? Even if that was the case gaara still tank Yasaka beads from both edo Madara and Single Rinnegan SM Madara(who is vastly superior to lolitachi and was only thrown back from the blast of it hitting the shield.

    Even if he were to be caught in a genjustu which I highly doubt would happen. Itachi has shown nothing that can pierce gaara Absolute defense. Have yet to see a feat from him that gaara hasn’t already outdid. He literally tanked a meteor impact for god sake.

    Gaara doesn’t even need to leave his sphere to beat Itachi. He can simply cocoon up use Concealed Picture Eye Cat and attack Itachi as needed.
     
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    Gaara has a decent style for combating Itachi for a while and has full knowledge, but eventually the gap just proves too big and Itachi either overpowers Gaara’s defenses through Susano or creates an opening with Genjutsu/clones and wins.
     
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  9. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    Simplistic answers are simplistic.

    "Gap is too big"
    "The portrayal is why Itachi wins"

    Where are the half decent arguments here for Itachi?
     
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    Shield of Sand counters Amaterasu.

    The chances of Genjutsu landing are next to none because of Gaara's flight advantage as well as a starting distance of 100 meters.

    Susano'o is Itachi's only hope, but the Totsuka Blade can't land while Gaara is flying and Yasaka Magatama can be dodged. Gaara outlasts.
     
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    Gaara and his sand get sealed like Shukaku
     
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    Gaara wins this one. Y'all must be underestimating him if yall think that with full knowledge Gaara is still going to get hit with any forms of genjutsu. Gaara can use his 3rd eye to look at Itachi without physically having to look at him. Gaara also has a solid counter for a lot of Itachi's jutsu. Amaterasu gets blocked by the sand. Itachi's Susanoo doesn't have wings, so it's unlikely he's hitting Gaara in flight with the Tosuka.
    Re-read War Arc Speedy. Gaara cleaned up against multiple Kage including his father and he sealed him. He also was integral in beating Gengetsu. Check his resume. Itachi can't catch Gaara in the air let alone kill him.
     
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    In these conditions, Gaara beats itachi. Itachi is literally at his mercy in the desert and even his Susano can't keep him inside it. He'll get pulled out of it. Gaara can take flight to avoid genjutsu and totsuka but for a guy who tanked hits from 5 ps clones, he can take anything Itachi's susanoo can throw at him. Gaara has one weapon which is sand and itachi is walking on it here.
     
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    Gaara is a bad matchup for Itachi. His Amaterasu is walled, and genjutsu is almost useless at the starting distance. Susanoo isn't really helping since its fairly immobile and would have difficulty tagging Gaara in the air.

    If Gaara uses Sand eyes to monitor Itachi however they could be a medium for genjutsu, but thats also dependent on Gaara using them as well as him keeping them fairly close to the ground(withing Itachis jumping range). Gaara takes this most of the time.

     
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    Like anyone with an actual argument has said, Gaara spanks.


    If MS Sasuke can't kill Gaara with black flames Itachi sure a shit isn't going to as he is worse with them in every way, in cannon.

    Wasting a MS Jutsu would just kill his mobility to the point he can't easily did he a shruiken as shown in the manga meaning he has no chance to dodge biju sized hands and just gets sealed from being to dang slow.

    Genjutsu is useless against someone who has two separate methods of blind fighting and sentient back up in the form of mommy shield.

    Tosuka pierces a clone and Itachi gets yanked out of Susano'o and sealed or Gaara just hangs out and outlast as he easily can by feats.
     
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    Gaara's defenses are not strong enough to defend against Yasaka beads. Yata Mirror reflects all the sands & V4 just overpowers it. Tosuka sword could just pierce through his defenses too because there's no way Tosuka's power to be weaker than Yasaka's penetrative force.

    Gaara's third eye doesn't protect him against genjutsu. Who says genjutsu wouldn't work against long distances when Gaara LOOKED and COMMENTED on Madara's eyes from over 100 meters.
     
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    When frog song was activated, and the three toad sages trapped the Peins in a Genjutsu all of them (the peins) were independently effective by it, it didint effect Nagato even when his senses were linked to the peins through chakra, so Gaara who basically uses the same method, with his chakra connecting to an eye of sand which then connects to his optic nerve. So with I dont see why Genjutsu would effect Gaara as a person (like individually, not his third eye) while using his third eye
     
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    Gaara never faced Ama he only faced Enton which is the slower of the two so if used Gaara would be hit and an opening would be created for Itachi to seal Gaara with the Totsuka blade. Seeing as how Gaara couldn't even catch Joki Boi Itachi should be able to dodge most of Gaara's attacks and the few that he can't can be blocked via Susanoo. With full knowledge,Genjutsu, clones and the MS jutsu Itachi should be able to make his way close to Gaara and end him after a decent amount of fighting. Gaara had was shown to be around Rasa's lvl and needed outside help multiple times against the French Dude who's below Itachi, Gaara's not quite on Itachi's lvl yet.
     
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    irrelevant either way since Gaara has a shield of sand on him. Even if we were to assume that his regular sand cannot stop Amaterasu for whatever reason, he can simply remove the sand that covers his body, and thus removing Amaterasu with it.

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    Gaara is stronger than him and can counter him well. However, in a manga setting where Kishi is the one writing the fight
    itachi will win.
     
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    I didn't know if this was funny or optimistic.
     
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    With these stips, Gaara should win the match-up, mid difficulty.

    Itachi can withstand for a bit, with MS and feints, but Gaara now how the knowledge and experience to fight Itachi. He has ti keep his distance though. If he withdraws behind sand barriers at close distance ir uses his third eye within a decent range, then Itachi may put him under genjutsu and then he wins.
     
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    As someone pointed out earlier Gaara never countered Amaterasu. He countered Enton, and from the translations I'm reading the enton was fired defensively.

    But I can't argue against the circumstances which are tailored made for Gaara. But I can say this; Susano'o is capable of covering it's user feet, as shown by Madara in chapter 563 page 14. Which is probably why Gaara couldn't exploit Yanking Madara out of Susano'o again. Itachi would have to recognize his environment and understand what Gaara is capable of doing especially in the dessert. He would have the close the distance, but luckily for him V4 Susano'o even without legs, is huge. Totsuka is pretty long as well. But Gaara has full knowledge he'd know to avoid eye contact. Incase himself in dome, and either attempt bury Itachi with Susano'o, which probably won't work, or outlast him.
     
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    Not sure why you are comparing Gaara's third eye to Nagato's methods....The fact that Gaara has to close one of his eyes to SEE through the sand eye is already clear that it's inherently linked.

    For Nagato, he actually sees everything, but the CHAKRA that is infused in the sound doesn't reach him so it has zero effect. To say that the sound genjutsu affects Nagato would mean that the range of frog song in which the sound infused chakra can travel is literally several kilometers which is ridiculous.
     
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