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Weekly Shounen Jump Discussion

Discussion in 'Akihabara Library' started by Reznor, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. Rica_Patin Baphometa Eloher

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    Just 2.
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  2. Succubus Banned

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    Issue #24

    Sesuji wo Pin! to〜Shikakou Kyougi Dance-bu e Youkoso〜 (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
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    Black Clover (CP)
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    Boku no Hero Academia
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    Kagamigami
    Gintama
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    Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
    Bleach
    Gakkyuu Houtei (Move to Jump+)
    Kaizou Ningen Roggy (End)


    Issue #25

    Cover, Lead CP: Lady Justice (New Series)
    CP: Shokugeki no Souma, Boku no Hero Academia, Sesuji wo Pin! to
     
  3. Rica_Patin Baphometa Eloher

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    There's no point in posting the incomplete ToC here, this isn't Mangahelpers (which I was banned from for a month for "encouraging other users to make fun of Sharkbait").

    Anyways, I don't think Kagamigami is dead despite the lower rank this week. Same with Ultra Battle Satellite. I think all 3 new series will be fodder, and I also think that Gintama will end in the next serialization round. That will give both Kagamigami and Ultra Battle Satellite each 10-20 weeks to try and build up a fanbase, if they don't by then then they'll be dead.
    Kuroko no Basket and Sket Dance though are two examples of series that started slightly lower ranked before becoming popular later on.
     
  4. Patrick Order Intensifies

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    What's with Hero Academy's slide all of a sudden?
     
  5. Ciupy Wielder of the Monado

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    Yeah,what the heck is up with that?
     
  6. Rica_Patin Baphometa Eloher

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    It's technically two spots higher since the new series and Bland Clovers cover pages aren't ranked.
     
  7. Patrick Order Intensifies

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    I know, it's 6th. What happened?
     
  8. 7777777 Banned

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    It's not One Piece is what happened. Except for it every other manga can and will jump as far as anywhere. It's normal.
     
  9. Patrick Order Intensifies

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    It used to be a top 3 lock for weeks on end and suddenly when the plot is getting even better it's falling out of that place. It can happen but it's weird it happens now.
     
  10. Badalight JOJO

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    There is a lot of competition in the upper half of Jump right now. A lot of series are shuffled around fighting for the top 5 places. Ass Class and Haikyuu make it intop there quite often depending on the week, and so does Shokugeki no Souma. One Piece is also a staple there and naruto came back. Plus black clover is seemingly popular so it may be up there as well.

    6th is not really surprising to me.

    Also why do you think Gintama is ending Rica?
     
  11. Rica_Patin Baphometa Eloher

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    Do you even read the series?
    It's super endgame status right now.
    Plus, Sorachi even had a letter at the beginning of the year iirc that implied that the series was in its final stretch.
     
  12. 7777777 Banned

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    Sorachi had this to say

     
  13. Badalight JOJO

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    No I don't read Gintama, I was just curious.

    What does he mean by the story turning shitty?
     
  14. OS The Entity

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    tfw black clover kicks off hero academy because of nips shit taste.
     
  15. Tayimus Number One

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    I wholeheartedly expect Hero Academy to reclaim its Top 5 (maybe even Top 3) spot when the latest chapters get ranked.
     
  16. Ciupy Wielder of the Monado

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    Oh,I hope this will work out in the end for BnHA.

    If this gets cancelled because of the poor taste people have..

    I just got flashbacks of Mx0...:twitch
     
  17. Stilzkin Well-Known Member

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    It's not going to get cancelled for not being in the top three.
     
  18. Ciupy Wielder of the Monado

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    Oh,I know that.

    Just that I hope that this isn't the beginning of a tumble down a slippery slope that could result in it being cancelled.
     
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    I doubt Black Clover hype will last long
     
  20. Patrick Order Intensifies

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    It probably won't get cancelled beccause of it's initial and consistent succes but Jump has induced a trauma into a lot of us now. Whenever you read a new series and you think "Oh hey this can become a fun read" it usually ends in 10 chapters for not being incredibly popular within a month.
     
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    If it makes money it's not gonna get cancelled regardless of jump ratings.

    My Hero Academia vol.2 - 239,566
    My Hero Academia vol.3 - 254,111
     
  22. Ciupy Wielder of the Monado

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    I know,I know..

    But as the gentleman above put it..the "trauma" is real..:lmao

    The fact is that if you are not an instant success in Jump your ass is gone in 10 chapters max and that lead to the death of a lot of promising series.
     
  23. 7777777 Banned

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    Sure, but that's true for everything. In any competitive business if you don't make a strong impression right away, you're done.

    As far as Academia goes, it was an instant hit so it's safe no matter what, as Shueisha farms anything that had even a glimpse of popularity to death because they need new headers.
     
  24. Patrick Order Intensifies

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    Wasn't a series called a succes when it sells 300k+ per volume? Or is that just the case with long running series and is 200-250k actually really good for a new manga?
     
  25. 7777777 Banned

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    300k+ is a giant success, anime deal, franchise etc. Basically top tier. Above that is already god level.
    90% of all manga, however, sell bellow/around 200k and 100k as a regular thing. It's not small, Jump just inflated the expectancy for sales with 500k and a million (then there's One Piece).

    200k+ for most manga is a success and pretty much their bar for life.
    For a new manga to sell >250k with just 3 volumes is amazing. Granted for a WSJ series that's a way easier feat to accomplish.

    That's not counting, of course, manga that reduce in sales. So if one used to sell 700k and then sells 300k it's not a success :lmao


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  26. Patrick Order Intensifies

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    Yeah makes sense. I just remember when Toriko was hyped to be the next hit about one or two years ago but then people said it would never escalate far beyond 300k and thus couldn't be considered a real succes.

    I admit you can call any manga that at least runs for a few years and sells decently a succes but I was talking about megahits here like One Piece, HxH and Naruto.
     
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    If they only consider nardo level sales a success then they don't really know jack shit. The prime instance of inflated perception based solely on highest examples and not the actual market.

    But yeah, Academia can easily go above 300k and probably 500k with anime and after.


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    I expect it to be well above 500k by it's 10th volume honestly. Other current Jump succeses like Assclass and Haikyuu sell around 700-800k at this point in their run.
     
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    Possibly, however HQ and Assclass don't have as much competition on the market in their genres. If a person can only afford 1 volume and he wants a sports shonen manga, there aren't that many to choose from.
    But if he wants battle shonen, there are tons and tons that would come ahead academia.
     
  30. Patrick Order Intensifies

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    One Piece is selling around 3 million copies per volume and even then Naruto also managed to sell another 1 million per volume. Now that Naruto is gone I wouldn't be surprised to see BnHA take over most of Naruto's marketshare.
     

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