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What Abilities Would You Give These Characters to Match Hokage Kakashi?

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Robo, Apr 29, 2018.

  1. Robo Heretic

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    As title suggests, what jutsus and/or skill-increases would you give these characters to be able to fight toe-to-toe with Hokage Kakashi (no sharingan)?

    Try to avoid god-like upgrades like Sharinegan, Susanoo, or anything that would be overkill. Just trying to get these characters to match him in combat and possibly beat him with high difficulty, not blow him to oblivion. You can give certain upgrades like Sage Mode to characters you think are too weak to combat him, whereas others you might not even upgrade if you feel they're already on par or stronger.

    -Neji (war arc)
    -Hidan
    -Kiba (war arc)
    -Adult Sakura (Gaiden)
    -Kankuro (war arc)
    -Temari (war arc)
    -Kimmimaro
    -Rock Lee (war arc)
    -TenTen (war arc)
    -Shikamaru (war arc)
    -Kidomaru
    -Sakon/Ukon
     
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  2. SuikodanFlight22 Tailed Beast Without a Tail

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    Neji- Sharingan :doge
    Hidan- Can already match Hokage Kakashi
    Kiba- Can already match
    Sakura- No feasible buff has her matching anyone Jonin level or higher
    Kankuro- Can already match

    Looking through the list most can match him.

    War Kakashi>Pein Arc Kakashi>Hokage Kakashi>BoS Kakashi
     
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    Do you mean what power ups/skills Kakashi needs to be able to fight toe-to-toe with them ? :hm
     
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    They can't hope to match Kakashi with his 1000 copied jutsu arsenal.

    They all die instantly when Kakashi parts the sky and makes it rain.

    Storm King-kashi
     
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    Lee is blown away by the storm

    Sakura is fried by lightning until her byakugou runs out

    Kankuro's puppets kill their master to escape Kakashi's might

    The rest instantly go deaf and blind from being near so much lightning.
     
  6. Gifted 神はここで終わります

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    That’s False..Kiba has shown no feats to imply he can even beat P1 Kakashi let alone Hokage Kakashi.

    Furthermore Hidan would fall prey to Shinden whihc is numerous times stronger than Raikiri and acts like Saskue’s Chidori Variants.
    So Shinden Nagashi then Shinden to the skull
    Shinden GG
    With her Strength of 100 Seal she had raw power that surprised Naruto and Saskue aswell as leading to Hashirama say she surpassed Tsuande.

    I don’t know how someone with Hercluen strength and Nigh Immortality due to Byakogou can’t take on a Jounin.
     
  7. Gifted 神はここで終わります

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    Gaiden Sakura is probably not too FAR off from Hokage Kakashi and would need Increased speed,etc
     
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  8. WorldsStrongest The wait is Over

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    Just standard progression

    Had neji lived he would hav easily been on Kakashis level
    More or less already on par

    Could be smarter i guess

    Maybe some clone feinting abilities and ranged moves would be helpful
    He would need quite a stat buff to hit kage tier

    Literally everything about him would need to improve by a very notable factor
    Already stronger than he is :lmao

    So is war arc sakura :lmao
    Id say hes on par already
    Standard progression as shes already like right behind him
    Already more or less on par if healthy with CS2
    Already on par if we assume he can use MP
    No clue

    Shes horrible fodder
    Prep :lmao
    Honestly if the guy was like a tier stronger and was to ambush kakashi theres next to nothing the man can do
     
  9. oiety Glorious Golden God

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    -Neji (war arc)-give my man's Base or Lower Gates Gai's physical stats. I think that would be enough.
    -Hidan-Mosquito swarm summoning. Some form of regeneration, maybe based on ingested blood.
    -Kiba (war arc)-Cerberus as a summoning, or Cerberus as a form.
    -Adult Sakura (Gaiden) is literally already above Hokage Kakashi.
    -Kankuro (war arc)-just give him the other 100 puppets that Sasori should have left, along with his poison and the ability to control said 100 puppets. Maybe Human Puppets, he could probably make one out of Rasa.
    -Temari (war arc)-Baku as a summon, along with Kamaitachi, for double the Futon. Better reaction speed.
    -Kimmimaro-remove sickness and he's arguably close. give him some Uzumaki or Hashirama cells (not a lot, say, less than Danzo level) for even more longevity and healing and he's a solid low kage.
    -Rock Lee (war arc)-if he has the 7th Gate by Adulthood he's matched him already.
    -TenTen (war arc)-more chakra and retaining ownership of the Bashosen would help out somewhat. Better physical stats, say Base Gai level.
    -Shikamaru (war arc)-Probably has matched him by adulthood.

    -Kidomaru
    -Sakon/Ukon
    these dudes would need major plot relevance.
     
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    -Neji (war arc) - 3rd Gate
    -Hidan - CS1
    -Kiba (war arc) - Tajū Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
    -Adult Sakura (Gaiden) - Already Stronger
    -Kankuro (war arc) - Sasori's Poison & Chiyo's Dual Chakra Shields
    -Temari (war arc) - Katon: Zukokku
    -Kimmimaro Good Health, Kabuto's Soldier Pill
    -Rock Lee (war arc) - Doton: Kajūgan no Jutsu
    -TenTen (war arc) - Sasori's Poison & Demon Brothers Chakra Pool (Fan Spam)
    -Shikamaru (war arc) - Leech all Creation & Bansho Tenin
    -Kidomaru - Would have to be a High Level Boost Technique (Around level of RnY or YCM)
    -Sakon/Ukon - Would have to be an S-rank AoE Technique
     
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    I don't know. You have a guy who can dodge all of those kids attacks by hiding undeground (except for Kimimaro), find them and wreck any of them with Madara styled Shiden, Shiden Nagashi and Shiden Eiso in CQC and at a mid range...Or just shoot lightning from underground...
    Since I believe Kakashi might be able to increase his reaction and nerve transmission speed like (Ay) Buntan and Sasuke did I'd write separately about two versions of Kakashi.
    Base Kakashi:
    Basically everyone here, except for Neji and maybe Kimimaro needs sensing, everyone, except for Kimimaro needs Kitsuchi's vulcano and V1 LCM to be able to do anything.
    I'd say V1 LCM is enough for Lee and Kimi while other kids will need to go V2 LCM and CS1/CS2 in case Shiden Kunai would be able to penetrate LCM2.
    Giving kids V2 LCM since they are supposed to be fast, but not as fast as Ay in this mode.
    Lightning buffed Kakashi:
    Same as above but SM instead of CS and maybe something else.
     
  12. wooly Eullerex BTW, Izanagi is a ninjutsu; chidori is a nin-taijutsu

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    -Neji (war arc) just use hiashi
    -Hidan fine as is
    -Kiba (war arc) tajuu kagbnshn
    -Kankuro (war arc) fine as is
    -Temari (war arc) fine as is
    -Kimmimaro fine as is
    -Rock Lee (war arc) just use gai
    -Shikamaru (war arc) edo asuma
    -Kidomaru baku
    -Sakon/Ukon cerebrus
     
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    like that moniker.:kthumb
     
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    I don't know Sakura is fine as is though.
     
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  15. ThomasTheCat Wannabe Battledomer, Less Active Than Preferred

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    Legit fought Sasori, a Kage level, with Chiyo. If we count Chiyo as a buff, you're incredibly wrong
     
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    Sooo it's not far fetched to say Kisame is greater than or equal Nagato but Sakura can't even be jonin level..... Okay....
     
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    Hidan already has CS2 strength able to resist Shika's shadows man. Hidan > Hokage Kakashi.
     
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    CS1 boost is required to avoid bunshin feinting and Shiden in open combat, as well as overwhelm Kakashi's enhanced strength in CQC (1 Gate & Shiden).
     
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    But 3T kakashi was crapping his pants when Hidan was on his tail. He couldn't do ANYTHING to Hidan. If Hidan goes for the Kill against Hokage kakashi, nothing will save him.

    I don't think 1 Gate matters because if he activates, he gets chopped up at the spot.

    Purple lightning was seen barely hurting kids and Hidan is a strong athletic immortal durable man. He is special. He is immune to paralysis. Shiden won't do anything. So Hidan just runs through and kills kakashi.
     
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    I've countered this point literally every time I saw it, yet you still refuse to even try to argue against it. Instead you continue with your baseless conjecture.

    Chakra control =/= physical strength
     
  21. Icegaze 氷の眼差し

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    Neji simply needs
    -more feats to match the part 1 hype jukken had. if air palm could do internal damage as it was described to then
    - be able to alter direction of attacks using his chakra like in part 1
    - 359 degree as hyped in part 1

    Hidan
    needs to be redone entirely

    Kiba too many things to list. there isnt anyway for him to match kakashi

    temari same as above

    Lee needs to be gai

    shikamaru he needs to have kyoraku level [Bleach ]shadow manipulation

    kidomaru too many things to list

    sakon/ukon its impossible
     
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    He wasn't crapping anything. He countered a 7 foot 3 bladed Scythe with an 8 inch knife numerous times, and avoided a point blank wind blast in mid-air with Hidan's feint.

    If you think no-Sharingan Kakashi is slower than Asuma, who exchanged with Hidan evenly destroying his weapon with Hein you're on something.

    Hidan is not immune to paralysis, he was defeated as a result of a paralysis technique, Kagemane no Jutsu.


    • Shiden doesn't have to hurt him, it deflects him back into a bunshin who beheads him a with Raiton Kunai via Doton: Ressenga.

    • More likely than not he's striking a lightning clone with his Scythe, which paralyzes him for a swift Raikiri one panel beheading.
    • Raikiri destroys his weapon in an exchange by himself and likely takes a limb off.
    • Kakashi & One Bunshin w/ Raiton kunai beat Hidan in CQC by charging right at him with no tricks.

    I admire your view on Hidan, but he doesn't have the ability to compete with Kakashi's versatility with nothing more than a mid range weapon that was countered by a knife constantly. This is an elite bunshin user with Raiton Coated Kunai & Shuriken, AoE Raiton & Raiton Taijutsu.

    He's solidly a perfect counter for an immortal man who loses through beheading alone, and relies on CQC weapon attacks which are easily overpowered by support from a clone and raiton coated iron.
     
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    Hidan always sparks argument lol
     
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    Lol hidan looses casually to any version of kakashi post kakashi gaiden the guy is trash tier

    Sadly Kishi didn’t expand
    On hidan
     
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    Give Kiba wolf/dog based Senjutsu (Wolf Sage Mode) and he can match hokage Kakashi easily.
    Hokage Kakashi doesn't have those spammable hax eyes right ?
     
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    Natural progression, Hinata's Lion Fists, and Hiashi's Vacuum Palm Wall.
    Curse Seal Stage 2
    Larger chakra reserves that enable him to use the Multiple Shadow Clone Technique.
    She is already stronger.
    Sasori's metallic poison and Chiyo's Mechanical Light Shield Block shields.
    Some powerful AoE Fire Release ninjutsu that can be combined with her Wind Release for improved results.
    Natural progression, I think if he's healthy and a full fledged adult he'd probably be stronger.
    Same as above.
    Weapons with seals on them that summon more weapons when thrown. Similar to Tobirama's explosive tag jutsu.
    Preparation time.
    Natural progression plus the Baku I guess?
    Some type of advanced physical-based intangibility and higher stats.
     
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    Nope, just his non-dojutsu arsenal. Plus he's still got his killer sense of smell I'd assume
     
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    Thanks :) Zombie Bros get too much disrespect among Naruto fans.

    - Kakashi was able to avoid it because of 3T and Hidan's style of CQC.

    Hidan's weapon is like an Axe. Its heavy and it deals heavy blows. So this means the attack speed is slower (the nature of the weapon itself). Hidan either kills you outright with a fatal blow or catches u with a scratch if he doesn't land the chop. This means Kakashi's 3T with a kunai is well suited to block Hidan's weapon (style match-up).

    But now, Kakashi has no 3T so he is susceptible to either a 1 shot fatal wound or a scratch.

    - Kagemane jutsu is different from lightning paralysis. One is ninjutsu restraint and the other is elemental ninjutsu. Hidan got his spinal cord crushed many times and he was fighting like a gold medal gymnast.

    No way anything that is natural can paralyze this man.

    Shiden is iffy. It shocked the kids and Kakashi went "a little too hard" with it so the paralysis potency is too weak to even hurt Hidan. Add to the other unnatural biology Hidan has, its useless in this match-up. Hidan runs through it with his immortal and durable body.

    ^ because of the above, lightning clone is also a non-factor.

    - Hidan's berserk assault will keep kakashi on his toes. This means rarely anytime to breathe and think/plan for a trick/feint.

    - Only issue now is the raiton kunai and raikiri kunai. Hidan's scythe might be able to tank it because it tanked through gian, pressure damage, and fire blast throughout the years with kakuzu. The weapon might be special. Like a religious artifact that Kishi did not touch upon.

    But that also won't be a factor because Kakashi could've raiton kunai or raikiri Hidan in their CQC exchanges but he didn't. He already wanted to when he successfully ambushed Hidan when he was restrained and tried to Raikiri him but failed to do so. Even with 3T Kakashi was able to only stalemate Hidan in CQC.
     
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    Does hokage kakashi have some crazy feats i'm not aware of?:hm
    Or should the question be "what abilities would hokage kakashi need to match these guys?:hm

    Isn't hokage kakashi the weakest version of him since shippuden??
    I'm very confused here:hm
     
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    -Beats Lee in taijutsu.
    -Can shoot Madara styled lightning from his hand(s?) which blows hyoton shards into "miniscule splinters" while all Chidori Nagashi did to Yamato's mokuton is untangling it, displaying purple lightning's superiority over regular one.
    -Can conduct Shiden through the whole body extanding each branch over supposedly large distances or shape it into a form similiar to Chidori Eiso.
    -Can create multiple boss summon sized Earth Walls at once.

    And of course he:
    -Has a good chakra pool since WA, that might get even bigger after that.
    -Doesn't suffer from sharingan chakra drainage.
    -Still has his 1k jutsu.
    -Possibly developed/learned more jutsus.
    -I think he might augment his reaction the way Buntan did.
     
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