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What are the main differences in effect between Sharingan: genjutsu and normal genjutsu?

Discussion in 'New Leaf' started by kayz, May 16, 2018.

  1. kayz Well-Known Member

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    I know sharingan genjutsu is more potent so what are the advantages it has over normal genjutsu?
     
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  2. Indra I can't stop eating

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    Sharingan Genjutsu is stronger than normal Genjutsu.
     
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    Can you use your eyes to cast Normal Genjutsu ?
     
  4. Ultrafragor Well-Known Member

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    Sharingan genjutsu is more powerful because you can shoot chakra out of the Sharingan and into the target's eyes.

    That's a more direct method to apply it than most other methods and delivers a larger amount of chakra to the target.

    More chakra = stronger illusion
     
  5. knight504 The Collector (⌐■_■)

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    Genjutsu: Sharingan can be cast with eye contact alone, not requiring hand-seals or giving any indication that a jutsu is being used which makes it lot more effective than standard genjutsu. Beyond that, I imagine it's just a matter of how skilled that individual is with genjutsu.
     
  6. kayz Well-Known Member

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    Did any normal genjutsu control someone's actions like sharingan genjutsu?
     
  7. Platypus Super Moderator

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    Ao's did.
     
  8. kayz Well-Known Member

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    Do we have any other one especially on panel?.
    I'm trying to find out if Normal genjutsu can dominate someone's will like the Sharingan's.
     
  9. Ultrafragor Well-Known Member

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    Kabuto put a whole arena of people to sleep in Part 1.

    Though, the shinobi in the audience mostly recognized quickly enough to break out.
     
  10. Plexa Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure I'd say that Sharingan genjutsu (in most cases) is any greater than other kinds of genjutsu. But simply having the Sharingan makes it possible for you to cast genjutsu (almost) effortlessly. Shikamaru once said that audio genjutsu is the most troublesome, because by the time you've noticed it you're already caught in it, but as we can see, Tayuya had to make preparations to do so. Granted, those preparations (a flute melody) were not exactly taxing, but in the shinobi world a few seconds can make all the difference. That's what's so great about Sharingan genjutsu: simply by making eye contact, you can cast an illusion on your opponent, and those few seconds will make all the difference. No signs, no build-up, just an immediate genjutsu which automatically, however brief, turns the tables in your favour.
     
  11. Trolling Well-Known Member

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    Sharingan genjutsu is so strong because of the strong Yin chakra that Uchiha have, powers it up and due to the complexity of the sharingan genjutsus.
     
  12. Gunners .

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    Administered through the eyes. Uchiha chakra is also more potent.
     
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    Kurenai had placed Kisame in a normal genjustsu using hand seals (before she was one shotted by Itachi)
     
  14. Sage light Active Member

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    Sharingan Genjutsu causes fear to opponents and attacks the heart instead of the mind.
     
  15. kayz Well-Known Member

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    It seems normal genjutsu can't create mental worlds/dimensions like sharingan genjutsu.
     
  16. Gunmetal Dragon Run Sequence: Oyster

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    From what I am able to surmise, Genjutsu: Sharingan is a potent jutsu with various applications. It can hypnotize someone and make them pass out, it can exude control over someone robbing them of their will, it can make people see things that aren't there and it can cause excruciating mental pain on someone. All of these options are available at a single glance. It is both multifaceted and convenient. Normal genjutsu, while some are able to compete in potency, lack the variety that the sharingan has. That is to say, it would seem that each single genjutsu only has one effect. You can either hypnotize someone, or obscure their vision/other senses, or cause pain. You would need a number of different genjutsu to do all of the things that Genjutsu: Sharingan can do. Normal genjutsu also lack the convenience. Powerful genjutsu like the Gengetsu's require specific set up. Even Temple of Nirvana, which doesn't require preparation like Gengetsu's jutsu, still seems to be most effective when the user is out of sight and can perform it in secret. So while Genjutsu: Sharingan isn't the best Sharingan jutsu, it still outclasses many other 'normal' genjutsu.
     
  17. kayz Well-Known Member

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    As the OP, I was waiting for someone to give a well analyzed detail. Good job
     
  18. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    Based on what? :hm

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    No real difference except the way it's being used. :V
    The rest is up to the user's skills in this department...
     
  19. Indra I can't stop eating

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    It was stated in the Anime i think. From Konohamaru.

    They probably pulled it from a databook or manga statement.
     
  20. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    Dont remember such a statement. :mikebatman


    And either way, it's evidently wrong. Hebi Sasuke for example with 3T Sharingan, was able to defeat itachi's strongest Genjutsu (Tsokyomi)

    and yet both (Edo itachi & EMS Sasuke) got fucked by Tayuya's Genjutsu and they couldn't break it on their own.


    The Rinnegan was stated to be able to counter the Rinnegan's Genjutsu (Mugen Tsukuyomi for example)

    And yet Pain (who has the Rinnegan :ufdup) got fucked by Frog Song.



    The most powerful Genjutsu is without a doubt the audio type.
     
  21. Arthas Anko's Lover

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    This is actually up for debate as Kishi made a point of showing a panel of Sasuke breaking Tsukuyomi as an example when Obito brought up Itachi holding back.

    Few problems with your statement :

    -- Tayuya's Genjutsu was receiving a Senjutsu boost.

    -- You are presuming that because Itachi and Sasuke used one method to break genjutsu, that they could not use other methods.

    For example Itachi is an acknowledged Genjutsu master. We have no evidence that Itachi needed Sasuke's help to break Tayuya's (Kabuto's) genjutsu. We do know that he used Sasuke's sharingan but that is not the same thing.

    Which do you think more likely, an S-Rank Genjutsu master needing help breaking a B-Rank Genjutsu (make it A-Rank as it is senjutsu boosted) or him just utilizing the most efficient method to free two people at once?

    As far as breaking Sasuke out goes there are two methods but both use two sequential steps:

    1a) Itachi breaks himself out.
    1b) Itachi moves to place hand on Sasuke to break him out. (This is bad as Kabuto could easilly intercept.)

    2a) Itachi breaks himself out.
    2b) Itachi then breaks Sasuke out with sharingan genjutsu. (Better then above but even a small delay in front of Senjutsu boosted Kabuto could be costly)

    The third method (which they used) use two simultaneous step:

    3a) Itachi breaks out Sasuke with sharingan AND AT THE SAME TIME 3b) Sasuke breaks out Itachi with sharingan.

    -- Also the simple fact that Sharingan genjutsu could overpower Tayuya's sound genjutsu speaks in the Sharingan's favor.


    @Hussain : You really need to re-read that fight and keep in mind that in Nagato's eyes those bodies were all disposable (well maybe not his friends). Again you are presuming that because a fighter chose to do A that they can't do B.

    When the grand-parent frogs started their song, the Pein bodies realized it immediately [Chapter 378] (before the genjutsu took effect, this is why Jiraiya had to delay them a bit).

    Nagato still sent those 3 bodies forward (while keeping three bodies in reserve.)

    End result, Jiraiya believed the battle was over and got his arm blown off by a Pein Body.


    Raw Power is up in the air.

    Ease of ensnaring victims is undoubtedly Audio currently.
     
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