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What if Hashirama spared Madara at VoTE?

Discussion in 'New Leaf' started by Orochimaruwantsyourbody, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. Orochimaruwantsyourbody Well-Known Member

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    What if Hashirama stabbed Madara somewhere he knew would weaken but not kill him at the end, and said something to Madara about not giving up on him?

    Basically, what if he handled it how Naruto would handle Sasuke at that point?


    How would Madara turn out?
     
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  2. Blu-ray Moderator

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    I don't think it'd matter. Just as how Hashirama made up his mind that he had no choice but to kill Hashirama, Madara made up his mind about going through with his plan. Nothing Hashirama did would change that, especially since Madara had Izanagi set up making whatever choice Hashirama made moot anyway.
     
  3. Lord Valgaav My fries

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    You've won the thread. Now close it sir.
     
  4. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    If Hashirama did successfully TnJ Madara, then he'd be good temporarily. Before Black Zetsu does what he did with Indra.
     
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    Nothing would change. It took Madara a whole lifetime plus starting a war, becoming a Jinchuuriki, getting betrayed and then absorbed into a primordial monster to finally have him realize where things went wrong.

    Most importantly, he believed that he was a hero because that's what the Sacred Uchiha Stone made him believe. And even if Hashirama would spare him, Black Zetsu would see to that being taken care of.
     
  7. Arles Celes The Psychologist

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    There was only way for Hashi to TnJ Madara back then.

    To find out somehow about BZ and how he falsified the Uchiha tablet. Then tell Madara how his goal was one big fat lie.

    Though its likely Madara would commit suicide right afterwards as said goal was the only thing giving his life purpose. Without it Madara would lose his life suport.
     
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    This is assuming Hashirama still takes Madara back to Konoha by force and imprisons and blindfolds him with 24-7 surveillance unless he changes his ways. Sparing him doesn't necessarily mean letting him go.

    PROS:

    No Izanagi allowing Madara to escape with Hashirama's DNA.
    No Rinnegan when Madara is about to die of old age because he lacks said DNA.
    No summoning Gedo Mazo, pulling White Zetsu out of it, corrupting Obito or giving Nagato the Rinnegan without the Rinnegan.
    No Akatsuki kidnapping Bijuu without a Gedo Mazo to seal them in, No Kurama attack without a corrupted Obito, and no Uchiha Massacre without a Kurama attack. Naruto and Sasuke live much happier lives as a result... at least at first.

    CONS:

    Hashirama would fail to convince Madara he was wrong without knowing the tablet was tampered with. So Hashirama and Madara die still at odds and the reincarnation cycle continues.
    Black Zetsu is still at large and will conspire to corrupt the next transmigrants - Naruto and Sasuke - since the previous lives didn't end the cycle and he still doesn't have a Rinnegan.
    No Rinnegan means Jiraiya teaching the Ame Orphans is less likely. And thus Naruto becoming a Sage is less likely.
    Unless Sasuke still awakens a Rinnegan and Naruto still acquires Six Paths Sage Mode, they and the world at large will be left unprepared when Momoshiki and Kinshiki invade when they're in their thirties.

    Of course, it's also possible that Black Zetsu could murder Madara while he's locked up and trigger Izanagi that way. But in that scenario Hashirama and Madara would both get suspicious and Black Zetsu has a much harder time keeping himself hidden. Unlike what happened in canon they don't think that Madara's death is according to plan.
     
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