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"What if" Marineford

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by Fel1x, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Fel1x Friend of the Grummles

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    I'm currently rewatching MF arc and this question poped up in my mind
    What would happen in MF arc if current Luffy would be there?

    G4 Luffy would reach Ace in the first seconds of him appearing there. But what next? Would Ace be safed at the end? Or would it be like it was but shorter?
     
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    Ace gets baited by Akainu and dies
     
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  3. Fel1x Friend of the Grummles

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    or Luffy's CoO would see the outcome and he would grab Ace away from this shit:blobfist
     
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    Luffy would only see his inevitable death
     
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  5. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    The Admirals/Garp/Sengoku would see him as a serious threat and kill him
     
  6. DiscoZoro20 Ōka Shichibukai

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    I think Ace would be saved since Luffy won't be a helpless toddler anymore for whom Ace has to sacrifice himself. Akainu tries to magma punch him as in canon and Luffy blocks with haki.
     
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  7. DiscoZoro20 Ōka Shichibukai

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    Just like Jimbei, right?
     
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    I like how this question pops up twice every year :catprone

    Result is always the same. Oda kills Ace.
     
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  9. cry77 Dont rustle my Jimmies.

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    Let's not pretend that a YC +/- is gonna make any actual difference in a battle where Sengoku and Garp where practially inactive. As were many of the Warlords, and there seemed to be at least one admiral on standby at all times..

    Lol @ G4 Luffy blitzing the scaffold and reaching Ace within the first few seconds :lmao

    If G4 Luffy tries to storm the scaffold he gets the exact same treatment Marco got - Only he does not have healing.

    And as stated, G4 Luffy is actually somewhat of a threat, chances are he just gets killed by Kizaru or whoever gets to him first.

    Ace still dies, his death had nothing to do with the strenght of his friends, but his own stupidity.
     
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    Lol @people believing Ace would die anyway.

    If we assume it goes the same way as in the manga, the admirals arent going to "try harder" or something,lol.

    Luffy is the MC and he will manage to free Ace just like in the manga. When Akainu begins to pursue them. Luffy can activate G4 and bring Ace to Laws submarine, while Marco and Vista hold off Akainu. He wont be able to catch up to G4 Luffy.

    The End.
     
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    They will take him more seriously but the result will be the same cause all they need to do is put some more effort..this is assuming there's no PIS...
     
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    It would be even worse. Top tiers would take him seriously and focus on decimating him instead of dicking around. Kizaru would be on his ass all the time instead of doing just about nothing.

    Now that's realistically with no PIS.

    Oda style he might save Ace and escape because he is stronger than Ace and can actually force him.
     
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    ok many of "repliers" stated that result will be the same or even Luffy will be killed by more serious Admiral's target attacks on him. But even so they can't kill him fast by that attacks. And WB crew would be there to assist him. It's not that simple

    If the plot would go as it originally was, Luffy would save Ace for sure. Why? because CoO + speed. And as @DiscoZoro20 said Luffy won't be a burden for Ace. Luffy blocks -> Ace realise if they will continue this fight nothing good will happen -> they run away
     
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    Mihawk or one of the admirals kills him. Or SenGoku kills him after he unlocks Ace handcuffs.
     
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    What if the Admirals actually worked together?
     
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    Sengoku wasn't holding back. Mihawk didn't have an intention to actually kill Luffy, just test him and "see his fate". He wouldn't have the intention if Luffy would be much stronger. Just because Shanks. And Mihawk's latent love for talented kids

    What if YC worked as YC should work? and have YC's actual strength. Most of them were 100% fodders

    and Admirals actually had some team moments
     
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    Im sure Admirals/Sengoku would be able to get a grasp at how powerful he is from the onset and actually fight more ernestly.

    Ace would still die, because he will always be jebaited by Sakazuki and Luffy will have to contend with Sakazuki that knows he is powerful.
     
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    What makes you think Luffy can block Akainu's magma at this point of the manga? The guy was literally able to take half of WB's face..he has the most lethal DF there is..no way current Luffy block Akainu without losing his hands.

    Ace will get taunted anyway..Akainu knows the game and he plays it very well..Ace is stupid and will try to fight him head on again..
     
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    Ace was saved in the original arc. Having G4 Luffy there isn't gonna make a difference because Ace is going to take Akainu's bait either way.
     
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    well, because otherwise Akainu would be extremely haxx. Blocking is reacting to the attack and minimalising the damage by your hands or weapon. WB didn't see it coming, Shanks saw it and easily blocked. but it's not the main point there. Jinbei blocked it, why can't Luffy who is >>> him to do the same?
     
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    Well Jinbei didn't really tank it..more like endured..he had visible damage..and Luffy is > Jinbei but in G4..unless he's already in G4 i don't see him blocking..even if he manages to block the first attack that means that Akainu will keep magma punching till they're both dead..he won't give him openings to escape..and that's assuming Ace will follow Luffy and wont get taunted again
     
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    Ace dies because Oda writes the story like this. It's the whole purpose of the timeskip. For Luffy to realize that he still got his friends/shs/family and wants to see them again, get stronger and become the PK. Without this Domino piece story isn't concluding.

    If Ace is rescued G4 won't exist either.
     
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    If the admirals were serious against luffy it wouldn't make much of a difference.
     
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    Nothing short of two Yonko crews could have succeeded against the marines when there are 5 admiral level marines, 4 of which barely went all out and the 5th took on WB and the commanders practically by himself. Not to mention 5 shichibukai who were also just fine

    Dofla, Mihawk and the admirals would have seen a more viable threat in Luffy and torn him apart, instead of thinking "aw that's cute"
     
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    Admirals take Luffy more seriously and he dies.
    Whitebeard and Ace still die.
    Akainu becomes the new MC.
    :blobcatjuice
     
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    "Akainu's Pirate Genocide In the New World" when?
     
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    Just like he saw the outcome of fighting Kaido? :mjlol
     
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    Sengoku can casually one-shot pre-skip Luffy, or do you think pre-skip Luffy is far more durable than a pacifista? Or that Sengoku is weaker than current Luffy, Sanji and Zoro?

    As for Mihawk, Mihawk wasn't fighting Luffy seriously, but did intend to cut his arm, and what do you mean he wouldn't have the intention if he was stronger? Mihawk only fights fodder? What about Shanks? Mihawk's love for talented kids? Where did you get that from?
     
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    Without PIS Luffy wouldn't even reach the scaffold.

    Assuming he did & freed Ace they both still dies. People forget that Aokiji froze the ocean so there was nowhere to run. Akainu would just keep fisting them till they dies assuming they can take Akainu's attack without getting one shot.
     
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    A bigger change would have happened if whitebeard wasn't backstabbed by squard.

    1) Whitebeard wouldn't have had his heart attack and got nerfed by a lot so none of the attacks would have hit him

    2) Marco wouldn't have been seastoned or hit, he'd have kept fighting kizaru

    3) Jozu wouldn't have lost his arm since he wouldn't turn to worry about marco cuz Marco wouldn't be fucked over, therefore he'd keep stalling aokiji with neither getting an edge.

    4) Vista would have kept fighting Mihawk to a standstill.

    5) Kizaru wouldn't have been there to snipe the key

    6) Akainu would lose within a few hits against whitebeard without whitebeard getting hit cuz he wouldn't be massively nerfed and he showed the capabilities of easily parrying and avoiding akainu hits even post heart attack till he was ganked by a bunch of vice admirals, then whitebeard vs garp and sengoku would have occurred.

    7) Ace gets freed, maybe Blamenco hangs with doflamingo for a bit. Ace goes over to whitebeard and his crew, they leave, no one dies but maybe akainu.


    The squard plan was absolutely essential for the marines to get the edge.
     
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