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What in tarnation is up with the Otsutsuki Clan?

Discussion in 'New Leaf' started by Reviewing Logic, Sep 12, 2018.

What is going on with the O clan?

  1. They are on a long holiday and their offices are empty until further notice.

    3 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. They have poor phone connections and messages/info takes a long time to reach them (Blame Space)

    2 vote(s)
    16.7%
  3. Nothing, except the true master plan was for Boruto to be born- Hagormo's/Hamura's Plan all along

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    8.3%
  4. Incompetent? jk they just find it funny watching Sasuke waste 15years looking for a scroll

    6 vote(s)
    50.0%
  1. Reviewing Logic What the he-

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    Are they literal trolls? Lazy? Both?

    Or some master planers, with everything going all according to keikaku?

    I ask this because what we know of them is this...


    • Kaguya betrayed them and didn't report or send the chakra that she was harvesting. (thousands of years ago)
    • Kaguya feared them and made an army to protect herself from them. (thousands of years ago)
    • The clan has rules and everyone, even Urashiki follows the rules.
    • They apparently had intel about THE LAST, and likely also watched Hinata and Naruto get jiggy.
    • Even knowing at minimum the events of THE LAST up until the NUE arc (10-15 years) they told Momoshiki zilch and waited on him to report the Kaguya dimension abnormalities before sending anyone.


    • And when they did send someone they sent tourist fisherman Urashiki out of all people. :derpko
    • Allowed Momo to run amok and do whatever he wants because meh :catshrug
    • Even allowed him to try and harvest the chakra for himself because meh :cat
    Spoiler:
    If they wanted to plant the God Tree on Earth as their main plan (like what Momo said he was going to do to Naruto) then they had ample time to do it themselves but instead waited for drug addict Momo to come calling

    • Never told Urashiki to defend or care for Momo or Kinshiki at all.
    • Had also ample time to invade with actual forces but never did and sent the choatic musketeers.
    • Had Urashiki's main job to roast Toneri and freeze him


    And now more then anything they likely will never appear again until the Kara stuff is over :catsupine




    THE OTSUTSUKI CLAN :catfish


    I wonder how the conversation/report between Kinshiki/Momo and the main clan/family was like? :catthinks
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    Momo: "Urgent News! Kaguya's planet is doing crazy shit"
    :catshivers
    "you probably never knew but she probably BETRAYED the CLAN!"
    "we must investigate" :catippy

    O Clan Main family: :italicat




    O Clan Main Family "Okay but take Urashiki with you"

    Momo: "Wait, What?"

    Urashiki "Whoo Hooo!":catspaz

     
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  2. Wrecked Baloney :(

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    I'd like to think Kaguya was the runt of the clan and they sent her to what was supposed to be the easiest planet.


    When she was sealed, they were like: Lel, Kagooyo who?

    EDIT: BTW, all options in the poll are possible. Definitely make it multiple options.
     
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  3. Abcdjdj1234 Well-Known Member

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    Because they're the product of a lazily written half assed cash grab and a rushed ending
     
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  4. Djomla Student

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    They all trash writing. That is all.
     
  5. Ultrafragor Well-Known Member

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    Given how events played out, I believe that Otsutsuki are dispatched to harvest chakra fruit in other dimensions and that the chakra fruit only bloom every thousand years.

    So, if Kaguya was late on her payment, the amount of time she could be late by is greatly extended since there would be almost zero activity from Otsutsuki clan member in various dimensions until about 1000 years after Kaguya first came. If it takes 1000 years for the Shinju to bloom, Kaguya wouldn't be expected to send back any fruit until the present time in Naruto's world. Which then explains why no Otsutsuki have come to interfere until now.

    It also explains why Kaguya, Momoshiki, and Kinshiki disappearing has not triggered a large scale invasion from the Otsutsuki clan. The clan basically dispatches members out into an endless multi-verse of dimensions. They would have to expend a lot of effort to track down members who haven't checked in recently.

    Also, Momoshiki and Kinshiki weren't screaming in surprise when they saw a non-Otsutsuki who had a Rinnegan. I'd guess that the main clan doesn't care what the dispatched members do with their time as long as they send back some chakra on schedule. So, it's not strange for Otsutsuki to settle down and bear children in whichever dimension they are harvesting from, leading to untold kinds of human-like beings all sporting magical eyes. Urashiki's interaction with Toneri also gives me this impression.




    Anyway, while some of it seems strange, Kodachi and Kishi's asses are still covered due to how little they have revealed about the Otsutsuki.
     
  6. Djomla Student

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    Who would have thought that a show about blabbering idiot ninja would've turned into this.
     
  7. root eltiT resU motsuC

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    On the other hand, this is good news for Naruto and his allies. Since their world is probably safe for another couple thousand years before word gets back to the Otsutsuki on Momo's failure. That gives everyone thousands of years to prepare and train. The O folks won't stand a chance when they arrive with reinforcements.
     
  8. Sweetcorn ...DAME DANE DAME YO DAME NA NO YO OoOooOoOO~

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    What is going on with the Kishimoto clan?

    Kishimoto is on a long holiday and his brain is empty until further notice.
    He has poor brain wiring and messages/signals takes a long time to reach the body (Blame Toriyama)
    Nothing, except the true master plan was for Boruto to be born- Aizen's Plan all along
    Incompetent? jk Kishimoto just finds it funny watching Sasuke waste 15years looking for a scroll
     
  9. RAGING BONER Sexual Tyrannosaurus

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    i said it years ago and I'll repeat it today: The height of power in the Boruto's dad series should have been MS(Sasuke) and SM(Naruto) respectively.

    Introducing the So6P mythology should've been merely for the sake of justifying the ridiculous nonsense that was the 6-paths of Pain.

    all this alien nonsense that came afterwards should have never been.


    as for the O-clan: I suspect that because they are a relatively small group of people and the galaxy is a massive place to harvest; plus the fact that they seem to be nearly immortal, their concept of time differs wildly from our own.
     
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    An impossibility considering even the first page of Naruto.
     
  11. Mar55 The Darkness Rises

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    Not to mention all the Ōtsutsuki have been portrayed as pretty stoic and reserved. It makes sense they haven't rushed into anything, especially considering they live for a thousand years.
     
  12. RAGING BONER Sexual Tyrannosaurus

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    no; since the sharingan was practically a bijuu leash...

    and for most of the series Kyuubi wanted to devour Naruto's soul, not be his pet doggy.

    It should have remained an evil entity; taken by the akatsuki, and used to enact their plans.
     
  13. 1Person Well-Known Member

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    Naruto gaining control of kurama has been teased from the start, it'd be weird for him to just suddenly ignore the super powerful beast he shares a body with.
     
  14. Mar55 The Darkness Rises

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    I'm missing the relevance.
    He actually just wanted to be free of humanity.
    He was never evil to begin with.
    Leading to the main character's death, ending the story.
    Which would only reinforce the power problem, as the Bijū are too strong for there not to be Bijū tiered Ninja and above.
     
  15. Mar55 The Darkness Rises

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    People act like the power structure of Naruto was destroyed in The War, despite being hinted at in page 1 and getting glimpses with Shukaku and Boss Summons.
     
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    that motherfucker impaled his mom and dad...screw that pokemon.

    Into the Gedo you go :camby

    with him gone he could have used SM more definitively and learned more about his own clan jutsu seals instead of just getting some nonsense glowing trench coat as his final form.
     
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    suuuuure; just like Itachi was a good guy from the start :lmao

    anyone who read Naruto from the beginning could see that Kishimoto was make it up as he went along, with A LOT of creative advice from his 1st editor.

    Kyuubi being a misunderstood puppy dog was complete bullshit; just like the Itachi twist and most of what came about after the introduction of the Rikudou sennin...oh god and that child of prophecy garbage.
     
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    I disagree with that notion, I don't view Itachi as "good" to begin with. Despite that it's canon, it's not really up for interpretation.
    I never disagree, but I feel he planned a bit more than he's given credit for.
    Kurama has valid reasons to hate humanity, after all they attack/control/seal him whenever they get the chance. He wasn't misunderstood, he did indeed hate humans. He simply grew to respect Naruto's actions and sincerity in saving the Bijū.
     
  19. Seelentau The All-Knowing.

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    Oh hey, it's one of those "fans putting even more thought into the series than anyone directly involved with it, even the mangaka" threads eh.
     
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  20. Zensuki Sasuke > your fav

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    Anyone with a brain can figure out what happened:

    Kishi admitted thinking about Kaguya at the end effectively and asspull.
    SP came up with the idea of The Last and the script wasn't written by Kishi. More inconsistency.
    Gaiden and Boruto were continuations that Kishi never planned and so he needed powerful villains out of nowhere: bring in Momo.

    Boruto isn't written by Kishi and is a further continuation of an already continued asspull plot point.

    To put it simply the foundations were shaky and the Boruto writers decided to double down and build on it making a whimsical plot for the series.
     
  21. BlinkST All is well in the kingdom

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    You go back to your wiki and let us have our fun:catflip
     
  22. BlinkST All is well in the kingdom

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    But if a character comes along and says that Sharingan is better than Rinnegan, then so be it:cat

    The Sharingan is greater than something as trivial as the Naruto manga. Madafakas need to keep things in perspective:catwalk
     
  23. Reviewing Logic What the he-

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    I wonder how much of a personality will the rest of the O clan have?

    I mean I thought prior to the anime that they all might just be a stick in the mud but Urashiki (all be it he seems like an Outlier) changed my mind

    even Momo in the anime compared to the Movie has a better personality
     
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    Based on what we know, the Ootsutsuki Clan seems to be decentralized.As people in the thread have mentioned, they probably travel from dimension to dimension harvesting chakra which makes communication difficult.

    They may have taken a long time to find out what Kaguya was up to due to time dilation. Ootsutsuki seem to be immortal or close to it and time probably flows differently between dimensions.

    We might also be looking at a Saint Seiya type situation where only a small handful of Ootsutsuki know about the leader's true intention or location. If this is the case, then the Ootsutsuki leader is not at full power or incapacitated somehow and some of the other Ootsutsuki are acting on their own. Momoshiki and Kinshiki's invasion didn't seem to be sanctioned by the rest of the clan.
     
  25. Takaya Well-Known Member

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    Not all chakra fruit is created equal? Maybe the ones they get on other planets mean that most of the clan is stoned out of their collective minds at all times and they just send out a few representatives when they get the munchies...
     
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