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What with Naruto's(series) "Shouldering everyone's hatred" bullshit?

Discussion in 'New Leaf' started by Batzzaro29, May 9, 2018.

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  1. Batzzaro29 Well-Known Member

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    If a character hate himself/herself enough to want "Shoulder whole world's hatred" then why not he/she just commit suicide and be done with their miserable life?

    The shit written in Naruto is so dumb that it will make Einstein lose his intelligence if he read that.

    Like that shit made Sasuke so dumb that he fucking forgot that he can simply genjutsu Kages and control Shinobi world, instead of being a edgy bad guy who want's "Shoulder everyone's hatred" and follow an another moron called Itachi.

    Like when Naruto said he wants to "Bear everyone's hatred", its like a whore in a brothel who wants to bear everyone's... you know what.

    Honestly this "Shoulder everyone's hatred" line sounds so fucking gay.
     
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  3. fuff Maybe next time ;)

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    why would he do that? sasuke wont be in it.
     
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    Also I'm pretty sure what he meant by shouldering the world's hatred was not hating himself harder than the entire world hated each other.
    Look on the bright side at least it's not a comparison between Naruto and Sasuke.
    :blobpeek
     
  6. Batzzaro29 Well-Known Member

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    You have to be a edgy miserable self hating moron for wanting to "Bear whole worlds hatred".
     
  7. root eltiT resU motsuC

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    ^ this, Sasuke doesn't hate himself... your premise is invalid. He's just doing the Dark Knight thing, being the hero the world needs, not deserves. Making people direct their blame and anger on him, so they don't direct it at each other. That kinda idea.

    His self esteem must pretty low that he places everyone else in the world above his own happiness. He probably thought this was the only good thing left that he could do. Sasuke is a broken and confused man (boy?) at that point in the story, but still. Not enough to wanna die, but enough to come up with this silly plan of his. It's dumb, but it's not bullshit from his perspective, it works if you consider what he's been through and must be thinking.
     
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    The guy has Rinnegan, Genjutsu Kages & Daimos and rule the world from behind = long lasting peace.

    But Sasuke did not wanted to do that, Because he is edgy and he only wanted to "Shoulder the worlds hatred" like a edgy self hating punk he is, and his "Revolution" would've send the world to chaos and turn it into hell, only because Sasuke had a hate boner and he likes it when world hatred touches him on places.
     
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  9. root eltiT resU motsuC

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    Guess he also wanted people to retain their free will and didn't feel like mind controlling anyone with any power was the way to go :oldshrug
     
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    Why do I have the feeling you hate Sausage?
     
  11. Kiba's Slut Boy World's #1 Kiba Inuzuka Fanboy

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    Because Kishi was so far into his Hero worship for his self-insert MC.
    He basically wanted Naruto to be a God (which is essentially what happened in the end)
     
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  13. Yagami1211 The Dragon of Dojima

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    He's talking about Sasuke, you know.
     
  14. Kiba's Slut Boy World's #1 Kiba Inuzuka Fanboy

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    He's refering to anyone using the phrase.
    but his description doesn't make sense to be applied to Sasuke, unless I'm remembering it wrong.
     
  15. Yagami1211 The Dragon of Dojima

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    You're remembering it partly wrong. Sasuke said he would shoulder everyone's hatred when he wanted to be the shadow kage of the world when he fought Naruto. That was the point of him playing the bad guy role to have everyone focused on him rather than hating & fighting eachother again.
     
  16. Batzzaro29 Well-Known Member

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    Naruto also said same shit in some chapter.
     
  17. Yagami1211 The Dragon of Dojima

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    The message was different.
     
  18. WorldsStrongest Umu

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    Someone completely missed the point
    And here he proves a second time that he missed the point

    Sasuke was literally trying to save the entire fucking human race from armed conflict EVER AGAIN...Thats selfless...Not edgy...

    Convinced most people dont even know what the word "edgy" means
     
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    While I can think of much nobler reasons, this comes to mind:
    A guy who abandons his kids in order to write comics would probably have a lot of hate coming his way in any part of the world, never mind one where WA is a dominant philosophy and people are seen as little more than tools for society.


    Indeed, SEE:
     
  20. Yagami1211 The Dragon of Dojima

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    He always misses the point.
     
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    You are like shouldering all of NF hatred Batzarro. :hurr

    Which means you are...Naruto? :LOS
     
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  23. root eltiT resU motsuC

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    Batzarro is the true hero of this forum.
     
  24. Batzzaro29 Well-Known Member

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    I think i'm more comparable to Satan.
     
  25. Yagami1211 The Dragon of Dojima

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    Yeah, that's basically what Sasuke was planning to do.
    He says "I'm Satan" and everyone focuses on him.
    Just as planned.
     
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    Don't know about Einstein but at least I know why you making these threads now. :doge
     
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    I think you fundamentally don't understand what "shouldering the world's hatred" means.

    It means becoming a symbol for everyone to hate, that way they unite against you and thus stop fighting amongst themselves, creating a peace of sorts (a strained peace, yes, but peace nonetheless). Which is the entire point in turning into a monster for people to hate, it's not about how "miserable" the characters themselves may personally be, it's always for the sake of peace.

    And before you mention it, yes, there are gaping flaws with this sort of tactic. :mitsukisip
     
  28. root eltiT resU motsuC

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    ^ kinda like what Obito inadvertently did when he called an army of allied shinobi forces down upon himself
     
  29. Wrecked Baloney NOES

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    And somehow Sasuke's way to peace is sometimes seen as more realistic.
     
  30. PureWIN Mr. Prince

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    I think it would've been quite interesting to see Sasuke serve as the Narutoverse's literal boogeyman to maintain peace and order - instead of whatever investigator role he's serving now.

    Of course the flaw in Sasuke's idea is although the villages may stalemate amongst each other, they would do whatever fucked up forbidden rituals and/or science to gain enough power to defeat him. The Narutoverse already has child soldiers - now just imagine them legalizing Orochimaru's fucked up experiments and Hidan's ritualistic practices.

    Then again - some of that has already somewhat come to pass. Naruto and Konoha leadership has seemingly given Orochimaru full approval for his experiments as long as he sends the successful ones - Mitsuki - to Konoha so it remains a powerhouse even during times of peace.

    But anyway, Sasuke terrorizing the world to keep it peaceful really is stupid and poorly thought out. I simply think of it as some type of Japanese idea that doesn't translate well to Western beliefs and values.
     
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