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What's stopping Hisoka in changing his height

Discussion in 'Hunter x Hunter' started by tonpa, Mar 11, 2018.

  1. tonpa Mafia

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    He could in theory chop off his other leg and make it rubber. So he can make himself smaller if he wants.
     
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  2. Stilzkin Well-Known Member

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    His proportions would be off
     
  3. Pyriz The Magician

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    Probably the fact that he's not mentally disabled. Cutting off his own foot would be the stupidest thing ever. If anything he'd want to find someone with a Hatsu that can help him restore the foot he lost. Walking around with Bungee Gum feet is a dead giveaway considering you've got to have your aura active 24/7 to maintain them. There's no way to disguise your aura with those Bungee Gum prosthetic. Plus, he probably wouldn't have nearly as much dexterity with gum feet as with his real foot/feet, and he would lose the ability to deal any significant damage with is foot since it's made of rubber, so he can scratch off a few dozen types of kicks from his arsenal. It's just not practical in any way.
     
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  4. Neo Arcadia puru puru

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    But as we know from Franklin, going the extra powers up nen. Hisoka might become stronger if he chops off the other foot.
     
  5. Pyriz The Magician

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    I doubt it since his Hatsu is already created, adding conditions and backlash is something you do during the creation process. That said, it's not worth the trade off. He couldn't move without activating his Bungee Gum.
     
  6. Stilzkin Well-Known Member

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    A hatsu can continue to change over time. You can't add arbitrary conditions to them though. Part of the process of creating a hatsu is about materializing your idea of the concept. With Franklin, he had an idea of bullets coming out his fingers. He probably had the idea of chopping his finger tips from the start. It's tied with the original concept for the idea, the bullets not just coming from the tips but from inside of him.

    I think if you were to do a random condition for your hatsu that had nothing to do with the concept of the ability in your mind it would give you a negligible increase in power. It would not be psychologically fulfilling or further materialize the ability.
     
  7. Pyriz The Magician

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    I can't remember a single Hatsu off the top of my head that's been altered after creation. I know you increase your skill with a preexisting Hatsu and make it stronger or more efficient, but when you're developing a Hatsu you're materializing your aura to carry out a certain task under a particular set of conditions. The only reason I could think of that might allow someone to add conditions to a preexisting Hatsu would be if you intend to let it perform a completely new task unrelated to the previous, and even then that would nearly always just warrant a second Hatsu, like Chrollo creating the bookmark.
     
  8. Zef Dark Magician

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    Absolutely nothing if we're talking about him increasing his size.

    Did you guys see how he "fixed" his nose, and hand after the Chrollo fight?

    He added gum to the nubs then added texture surprise to make it look real.
    In other words he added something that was no longer there. Added mass.

    I see no reason why he hypothetically couldn't extend his gum like aura then apply texture surprise to make himself look taller, wider, etc.

    In order to make himself shorter he'd have to sever his limbs as OP said which wouldn't really be out of character if the Kastro fight is any indication.
     
  9. Intus Legere ̣#TeamHisoka

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    It's weird because Hisoka isn't taller than 1,90, according to some data book. Maybe Chrollo is taking into account that he uses high heels sometimes?
     
  10. snakeeater Well-Known Member

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    Another reason why I don't trust information in the data books. lol
     
  11. PrazzyP HxH is life

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    Im wondering of he can actually properly heal himself without having to use bungee gum all the time?
     
  12. Ye Xiu Well-Known Member

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    Hisoka is another step ahead of the Troupe :mjpls:
     
  13. TheOmega Real Nigga

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    Hisoka's a Transmuter right?

    Doesn't that mean he can shapeshift?

    PT is trippin
     
  14. Pyriz The Magician

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    No, shaping your aura is a Transmutation skill. Not shapeshifting yourself. An example is Bisky in Greed Island when she would shape her aura into numbers to train Gon and Killua to use Gyo instinctively. Zeno shaping his aura into a dragon is another example.

    Hisoka could use Texture Surprise to disguise himself, though, by giving himself a different face.
     
  15. hysoka uchiha Member

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    in fact he does not look 6'3 illumi does that estimation was very weird.
     
  16. Snake Well-Known Member

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    Do people still not know how Nen works after 379 chapters?
     
  17. TheOmega Real Nigga

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    Biscuit? The same one who went from lookin like the Hulk to lookin like a 10 year old?

    If your aura is on you and in you and you can change it, why would you assume that it would have no effect on the body?

    Hisoka can most definitely use his Transmutation skills to find a way to shape shift
     
  18. Pyriz The Magician

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    Bisky's ability isn't a Transmutation ability. She mentioned in recent chapters it was something she wished for for a long time and it eventually happened, and that she herself doesn't understand it.

    You draw your aura out of your body before you manipulate it, otherwise you're using Zetsu and cannot use your aura. The shaping of pure aura alone is a Transmutation skill, not any physical matter. Using your aura to forcefully manipulate your physical body would be a Manpulation skill, as that's the affinity that can change and manipulate physical matter.
     
  19. Intus Legere ̣#TeamHisoka

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    His transmutations skills are gum related. Transmutation itself is invisible to regular human eyes. Evenif Hisoka can walk on aura or make Bungee Gum hard enough, it would still be invisible unless he applies texture surprise -- which is materialization -- over it. Other transmuters don't have the same resources.

    If anything, shapeshifting should be a materializing ability, like Bonolenov's.
     
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  20. Pyriz The Magician

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    I think that only applies to shapeshifting into different objects. Materializing into different things and what not. Altering your own body structure and altering your appearance a la Illumi seems to be much more geared to Manipulation.
     
  21. TheOmega Real Nigga

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    Maaan all I know is Hisoka's a fucking magician! He's gonna have a method of diguising and deceiving his opponent's thru misdirection. They're silly if they think they're gonna just straight up find him

    I wouldn't be shocked if the fucking guy cuts himself in half, uses the gum to seal the blood and preserves himself long enough to then re attach himself once he gets past their search
     
  22. Sequester Lacking in Luster

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    1000% this. If it hadn't been said, I'd be saying it now.

    He truly works in mysterious ways, anyone remember in his introduction when he turned homeboy who bumped into him's into flower petals... Can't remember, was that shit only added for the anime?
     
  23. IchijiNijiSanji Well-Known Member

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    He can coat himself with aura and use texture surprise to change his appearance

    Didn't he re-make his arm like this?

    Like he can essentially create an entire body around himself like that
     
  24. Tom Servo Pants Pants Pants Pants

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    I mean he could still wear lifts in his shoes to make himself taller or change his outward appearance via texture surprise.

    Let's all just acknowledge that Phinks was kind of stupid just to list his height as something to look out for motherfucker wears Kefka clown-make-up and heels dude stands out even if he doesn't literally stand out.
     
  25. Pyriz The Magician

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    Texture Surprise can only be applied to a very thin surface like paper or cloth. He only used it to mimic his skin. In the Kastro fight, he stuck his severed arm back together with his Gum and then wrapped a thin scarf around the wound and used Texture Surprise to make it look like undamaged skin. After the Chrollo fight he shaped his Bungee Gum into rubber prosthetics and then coated them with a layer of texture surprise to make it look like normal skin. It can't create anything thicker than the paper or cloth or whatever he uses, though.
     
  26. Tom Servo Pants Pants Pants Pants

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    That limitation only really applies to him pre-death.

    He literally has new limbs now thanks to his texture surprise + bungee gum combination. Given the elastic and malleable properties he can make and the texture surprise offering a fake layer above it he can change his appearance and possibly even shape drastically.
     
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  27. Pyriz The Magician

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    This is untrue and there's really nothing to support that.

    Yes, a combination of Texture Surprise and Bungee Gum. Bungee Gum forms the prosthetic, Texture surprise simply gives it the appearance of his normal skin. It is still being used in the same way it always has, changing the appearance of a thin surface.
     
  28. IchijiNijiSanji Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that's what I said.

    He can create a coat of bungee gum around him in any shape he wants and put texture surprise over it to make prosthetics.

    Like a face prosthetic to change his face



    If he created an arm and a leg with that in any shape he wants, he should be able to do that over his whole body like he was wearing a body suit
     
  29. Pyriz The Magician

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    Ah, you just said aura in your original post, you didn't specify Bungee Gum.

    It's possible, but it would also make it impossible for him to use Zetsu for stealth. He would be forced to use In while maintaining Bungee Gum indefinitely, so he'd be wasting a lot of energy constantly.
     
  30. IchijiNijiSanji Well-Known Member

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    He kinda already has to do that anyway since his arm and leg are made of bungee gum
     
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