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Which Admiral has the best Devil Fruit against Kaido

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome' started by FlyingBison, Nov 30, 2019.

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  1. Cursemark

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    No it isn't. There is not a single case or instance nor statements of anyone being able to stop sugar's or kuma's devil fruit with Haki. Haki cannot nullify devil fruit abilities. The only type of df abilities it can bypass are those where your body is turned into another material allowing them to be hurt normally or potentially something like Law's spatial slash (which is only one aspect of his ability & hasn't even been proven true).
     
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  2. Erkan12

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    Basically it can. If Law's cutting power can be blocked by CoA Haki inside of his room, then any DF power can be blocked as well. Law's DF power is the ''ultimate devil fruit'' it's superior to others in terms of hax, if not fire power.
     
  3. Dellinger

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    Luffy literally split apart a city block some minutes later. He was never one shot.
     
  4. Cursemark

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    This is a no limits fallacy and just straight up false. Law cut right through Vergo's haki. Until there's actual evidence of someone being able to stop his spatial slash (only one aspect of his fruit) with Haki and not just DD talking shit, this can't even be used as a legitimate argument.
     
  5. Erkan12

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    Vergo underestimated Law by using FBH. That's something you use against fodders, or at least against someone with lesser Haki. Law's Haki wasn't weaker than Vergo's, that's why he cut him, just like Zoro cut Pica's FBH. FBH is a foolish move. Smoker deflected Law's cutting power without using FBH and Vergo's Haki > Smoker's Haki. Then Doflamingo deflected Law's cutting power as well, even Hawkins blocked Law's sword with his own sword.
     
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    Regardless, that encounter just proves that Haki isn't some absolute counter to devil fruit abilities.
    None of them deflected the spatial slash itself. They stopped his sword. Even if they did that still doesn't mean Haki could stop every devil fruit power in existence.
     
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    Of course he has. Enma drains excessive amount of user's advanced CoA (in Wano it is called ryo). It was explained in manga.
     
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    Akainu and Kizaru imo.
     
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    Law's spatial shit was blocked by DD's CoA:tlj
     
  10. Shiba D. Inu

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    Sugar needs to touch you for her hax and CoA armor prevents it at the very least

    Kumas BFR idk, but probably CoA can stop that too (maybe via a barrier)
     
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    Kaido wasn’t even trying
    also later he was humiliated against base BM
     
  12. OniKaido

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    There is no reason to put kizaru and Fuji below the others. Nothing in the manga indicates that.
     
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    Aokiji's DF can't bypass durability. That is nonsense and utterly unsupported by manga.
    Its ability is to lower the temperature. If you have enough durability then you can take on low temperature. Straightforward logic.
    Sugar's DF also doesn't bypass Haki. That is also moronic headcanon not supported by manga. Sugar needs to touch someone's physical body to turn them into a toy. Haki by definition forms a barrier around ones body so naturally Sugar can't turn that particular person a toy considering she never touched real body of that person.
    People writes fanfiction so overconfidently nowadays.
    That being said either Aokiji or Issho has best DF against Kaido. Even if they can't kill him, both DF has powers that can immobilize someone. They can put him in position where he can no longer fight. In the end though DF doesn't matter. It all depends upon the user.
     
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    It was a named attack.

    Second, like it or not Luffy is going to finish kaido, You can also add Law, Zoro and Kidd too, a bunch of Supernovas are going to end this Kaido wank soon.
    Enjoy it as much You can.
     
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    Kaido will fall down to all the worst gen that are present there and with some Big Mom involvement. That’s Odas wank not mine
     
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    Big Mom will fall by marines Hands It's pretty much confirmed at his point.
    Greenbull need some hype on what better occasion?
     
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    Green Bull has problems with Rev commanders and you think he can beat Big Mom ? :rotfl
     
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    N1gga had problems against Sabo and Co.:tlj
     
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    Reminder to keep this on topic. Thanks.
     
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    People speculate that Fuji has been send after Hancock. That would mean that GB will probably get some hype after fighting Mihawk or Weevil.
     
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    YC-lvl DIAMOND Jozus arm literally shattered like fragile ice
     
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    Aokiji can ignore dura to an extent by using his powers to freeze his opponents, making their bodies brittle and applying frostbite.

    Thats nothing new
     
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    Kaido isn’t Jozu though. He has durability like no one we’ve seen. Extremely doubtful Kuzan’s ice does anything.
     
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    Yeah, except Akainu becoming fleet admiral and being the one to actually have an extended fight with Whitebeard, doing the most damage of them by far along the way. Kizaru lacked the drive to become fleet admiral in a manga centered around willpower and Fujitora has little feats. I'm not rounding them into Aokiji/Akainu (who may very ell have gotten stronger after that 10 day match) until further notice, and if you do we'll just have to agree to disagree right here.
     
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    So?
    All that means Aokiji's ice was stronger than Jozu. It doesn't by any criteria means that it bypassed durability. Jozu is hardly the most durable character in OP anyway and his diamond durability is for cutting attacks. Garp for example would shatter him with a punch.
    Having thicker skin protects you from cold. This is literally the same principle here. One Piece character has magical skin ergo it protects them from temperature manipulation if they are strong enough.
    I don't think you get what bypassing durability means. Attacks that for example does nothing to outside but hurt inside can be called attacks who bypass durability. To bypass something means not even engaging in a fight with that something. Aokiji obviously targets outer skin. That is not bypassing durability. That is overpowering durability. There is difference in those two concepts.
     
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    Magical skin:tlj
     
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    Are you trying hard to prove yourself a troll Acno? Because you are succeeding. I have started to see why you have such a bad rep forum wide.
    Either quote my entire post and debate properly or fuck off.
    And yes One Piece characters obviously have magical skin(entire body really) considering amount of shit it tanks and endures . Unless you are dumbass enough to think their body is similar to real life humans.
     
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    Anyone of them can do damage, given the opportunity.
    The damage done just depends their levels, Akainu would do the most damage as the strongest, then whoever is second after him now.
     
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    Rave being Rave

    I don't need to quote your entire post.A pussy like you dodge every simple debate
     
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    I personally think Akainu has a good shot at being stronger than Kaido. Especially Post time skip.
     
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