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Who from the Espada can defeat General Yamamoto-Genryūsai Shigekuni?

Discussion in 'Bleach' started by The Nameless Pharaoh, May 29, 2007.

  1. The Nameless Pharaoh

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    As the title says, who from the Espada can defeat General Yamamoto? Or are Aizen or the Vastelorde's the only ones capable of doing it?

    This is NOT All the Espada Vs Yamamoto.
     
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    primera and segundo released, maybe.
     
  3. ez

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    I doubt any of them can if he also got his power up. If Ulquiorra is going to run from Yoruichi and Urahra, I'd say Yama-jii would be tough even for the top espada to take on. It's probably gonna be him against Aizen and he'll die after an awesome battle
     
  4. Key

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    The first seat #1 espada? Yeah, he's not even appeared but I think it's got to be him/her.
     
  5. Grand Moff

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    Hmmm....
    Considering we havent seen Yama's bankai
    And considering his intial release is pretty uberpowerful
    And also considering he incapacitated a vice captain with just reiatsu
    I'd say they have a tough time with him one on one
    I think even Aizen might have a bit of a tussle...
     
  6. Mider T

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    Probably only 1st and 2nd. Maybe 1st with bankai activated. I doubt however he would've been able to be defeated in his prime.
     
  7. AbnormallyNormal

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    i am quite sure the #1 espada released form is sufficient beyond that who the hell knows. its possible a released ulquiorra could do it, but it probably would take more like a noitora level or even a stark level (i assume stark is #2)
     
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    It would take Primera; Noitora is Segunda and is destined to fight Zaraki Kenpachi, who may get Bankai. Despite the fan i am, i am under no illusions that Bankai Kenpachi>Bankai Yamamoto - he is not.
     
  9. Yamato (Inactive)

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    IMO none of Espada wins against Yamamoto. At most they will be strong enought to compete, deal some damage and survive by running away in Negation.

    But if Yamamoto will use Bankai they just die.
     
  10. AbnormallyNormal

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    hmm i really doubt yamamoto is more powerful then a released primera espada, judging based on espada power levels of the #4 and of noitora vs chad and ichigo, then chad vs shinigami and ichigo vs shinigami, unless yamamoto is just insanely more strong than even ukitake which would be kinda lame if he was
     
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    Currently? Nobody.

    Don't you think Aizen would have killed him already and spared himself all the trouble of fooling everyone if he could kill him so easily? And we all know Aizen is the strongest of them all.
     
  12. AbnormallyNormal

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    diamondedge, that sounds logical but remember this is fiction, logic isnt necessarily dominant or deciding factor, but rather entertainment
     
  13. Metric

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    Yeah i mean Aizen could have hypnotised Yamamoto and killed him in SS due to the hypnosis. But then the good guys would stand no chance.

    Back on topic, i think Primera and Secunda released may just stand a chance, based on how an unreleased Cuatro (Ulqy) managed to utterly own Vizard Bankai Ichigo.
     
  14. Solar Bankai

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    NO! He did not own Vizard Ichigo, i read those chapters again and he was holding off Vizard Ichigo. The total sum of that battle was this -
    1) Ichigo goes Bankai + Vizard
    2) Ichigo rushes at Ulquiorra and smashes him through about six pillars with one blow.
    3) Ichigo fires a shiz Black Getsuga
    4) Ulquiorra tries to stop it with one hand, uses the other and finds he cannot stop it even using both (ie he used something else, there was plenty of time to unsheath and sheath his Zanpakotu after and during the attack)
    5) Mask breaks, Ulquiorra comes out a tad scorched.

    How is that owning? If Ichigo had unlimited Vizard, he could have used a BG then went behind Ulq and used another, which Ulq could not stop and would be injured.
    Released Primera vs Bankai Yama = Good Fight.
     
  15. Metric

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    Well the result of the battle was:
    Ichigo uses everything he can - Bankai, Vizard mask, Black Getsuga
    Ulquiorra uses nothing except his hands - no sword, no cero, no release

    So Ulqy did nothing, Ichigo did everything he could, and it ends up as Ulqy is unharmed, Ichigo is collapsing.

    To me that is an owning.
     
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    Patched Zaraki did the same thing to VC+ lvl Ichigo.

    Released Yama took on two released top tier captains.

    Patched Zaraki took two released mid tier captains, and almost killed one in bankai. Can he take on primera espada? No. Can Yama? Don't think so.
    (Not saying Zaraki > Yama. I'm just pointing out that Yama hasn't really done anything special.)

    I would say the best Yama could fight evenly with is Ulquiorra, and that's assuming he has a hax bankai.
     
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    If there are any Vast Lords in the Espada, then they, individually, can annihilate Yamamoto.
     
  18. Acadi

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    Grimmjow Jaggerjack.

    Come on, Yamamoto don't even have hollow powers.
     
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    I'd say that La Primeda Espada's the only guy/girl with the chance of forcing old man Yama to use bankai. his shikai alone burns forest with no more then a glance.
     
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    ulquiorra did not run from yoruichi and urahara, he simply succeeded in his original goal already and did not feel any need to fight them. he even said he maintained the upper hand. if you see his attack vs masked form ichigo, he took the black getsuga without any damage at all, twice. then he nearly killed ichigo effortlessly. there is no way yourichi is nearly as strong as masked ichigo is, she hurt herself hitting yammy. urahara could be a good threat to ulquiorra but if ulquiorra released i doubt urahara would stand a chance. also yamamoto is too lame and boring of a character to be given the honor of battling out a god-like aizen at the end. yamamoto will die or nearly die in battle with primero espada probably.
     
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    But again i say, it was only one blow. I would consider it owning if Ulquiorra just smashed the Vizard form and walked off, but he didnt. He was the one pushed back.
    Ulquiorra released would pulverise Vizard Ichigo, but if Ichigo had unlimited Vizard time, Ulquiorra would have taken some damage.
     
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    chapter 270 made it look like ulquiorra was gonna die
     
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    I doubt any of the Espada can kill him. I think even Aizen might have some trouble against him.

    I guess it depends on their Zanpakuto's abilities.
     
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    I think Yamamoto could win against primero espada or Segunda or the third espada.Nanao was KO just by looking in his eyes.And when he fought against the 2 seniors captains, he swung his sword unreleased and the two were blown away(okay not very far away..about 5 meters..)And if he would go bankai than he destroy everything
     
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    No Espada can kill Yamamoto, even Aizen may not be able to without Vaizard powers.
     
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    we see what all of the espada can do this is a hard question
    i belive that 1 of the first 2 could do it but this is speculation
     
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    it doesn't matter how you need to see it as an owning. the fact is that Ichigo put in his soul and pride into that one attack and Ulquiorra just took tho the blow (as if there was one)

    Ichigo still got owned and that must be noticed, even if it was one attack.
     
  28. Azure-kun

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    Currently? I don't see anyone being able to stop Yamamoto. unlike the sandaime from naruto, it doesn't seem like aging will make him weaker.
     
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    ...sleepy-kar. Only cause he seems badass. I hope he's the number 1 espada.
     
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    the old man espada will own the old man shinigami of course
     
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