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Who is stronger, Itachi or Bee?

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Orochimaruwantsyourbody, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:57 PM.

Disregarding 1v1 who is stronger?

  1. Itachi

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    51.1%
  2. Bee

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    40.0%
  3. About the same

    4 vote(s)
    8.9%
  1. Orochimaruwantsyourbody Well-Known Member

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    Bee.

    Although one could argue Itachi beats him with Ama possibly, still doesn't change that most villages would rather have Bee on their side in war times than Itachi
     
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    When making a tier list, if the objective was to list ninja from best to worst in terms of value they bring to the village for war purposes, Itachi isn't all that high. He does well in small skirmishes against a few shinobi at a time, then he'd need to retreat for some time. Characters like Bee, Jiraiya and even Kisame would be more valuable for a village whose on the brink of war. They'd be able to fight much longer battles, deal with larger number of opponents.
     
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    imo Bee is overall more powerful but Itachi can potentially beat him.
     
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    Itachi negs Bee with tsukuyomi

    But he's weaker
     
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    Itachi is superior imo. B is susceptible to both Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu with repercussions.
     
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    Itachi.

    Itachi canonically dodged his sword style and Samehada strikes, Itachi surprised him with his foot speed/shunshin (when he went behind him) and surprised him another time (when he jumped in front). Itachi is leagues smarter than Bee. Itachi could easily retreat from Bee and Naruto without being overwhelmed, so Bee alone would never pressure him. Throughout the fight it is Itachi who was praised and Bee who was impressed. Bee praised Itachi saying "you weren't just strong". If you count the fact that Full Hachibi was countered by Amaterasu, and that Bee is susceptible to Tsukiyomi - it supports Itachi being stronger.
     
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    Itachi easily lol
     
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    Bee obviously.

    BM, Spree Bijuudama.

    End of fight.

    He's 4-5 tiers stronger than Itachi in every other possible situation a shinobi would be in.
     
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    B was portrayed as superior to NTCM Naruto, who in turn is superior to WA SM Naruto, who is superior to Itachi. Therefore, B is superior.
     
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    You guys are missing the point of the thread.

    Its not Itachi vs Bee. Its who is generally superior.
     
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    No, they're not.

    They know Itachi is only powerful in small skirmish battles and choose to ignore everything else.

    Bijuudama > Itachi in small skirmish, large skirmish, extended war, war fields, village protection, village raiding, everything.

    Spree Bijuudama > Any MS user in everything

    Max Charged Bijuudama > Multiple MS users in everything

    This isn't a debate.
     
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    Itachi in a one on one fight wins imo but it's close.

    But if we are talking usefulness then B undoubtedly wins in that regard.
     
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    So it begs to question..

    Should we judge a shinobi when making a tier list by their overall value to a village or just by 1v1s?
     
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    You should judge a shinobi by their superiority to others and by how well rounded they are.
     
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    Bee is much stronger than MS Itachi....but Itachi could still beat him in a fight via amaterasu. But that dosen't make him superior to Bee
     
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    I've always judged shinobi power overall.

    Most favor 1 on 1 power scale for their lists, which is fine.

    A lot would change from my rankings if I were considering small skirmish only.

    Tsunade and Sakura would fall down as their army support is now meaningless, along with the other two Sannin who have summoning armadas that own war fields, massive AoE and super modes/bodies that only the elite can possibly contest/defeat, MS Kakashi goes up along with every MS user as their entire sets are engineered to fight less than 20 minutes and kill a handful of shinobi before expiring and can spam their dojutsu without threat of going blind in the simulation.

    Many other changes none of which make any real sense in totality.

    When I rank a ninja I look at how effective they would be in war, defending a village, sacking a village and fighting elites (small skirmish). These are the responsibilities of shinobi, and there are many who suck at even three of these responsibilities.
     
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    Did I say Itachi beats B in a fight in my post?
     
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    Maybe if you elaborated more it'd be clear what your intentions were.
     
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    If my intentions aren't clear then that shows someone is an idiot. What's the title of the thread? Who's stronger. What was my answer? Itachi easily. It's not rocket science and hard to figure out.
     
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    I suppose u didn't clarify since it was like 3 words.
     
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    In general followed that...
     
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    @Bonly What does "in general" imply to you....
     
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    So you beleive the thread was asking who's stronger and you say Itachi. But when someone says the thread isn't about who's stronger you make it seem like you didn't say Itachi was.
     
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    -snip-


    If I asked you if you like ice cream and you said no, do you think you're answer would need to be clarified as it would confuse someone? See this is why I've been ignoring you since the end of May and why I'll keep ignoring you. I just wanted to point that out to you as you just assumed I wasn't aware of what the thread was asking and just assumed that I wasn't answering the question the thread asked.

    See now you're being an idiot trying to white knight. This "someone" didn't say that the thread isn't about who's stronger, he said that it's not about who beats who in a fight. I also never said or made it seem like I didn't say it was Itachi, what I said is where in my post did I mention a 1V1 fight. If you're not gonna hop off my dick, at least know what you're talking about when you try to white knight against me.
     
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    That is not a good comparision at all.

    How does a yes or no question relate to clarification for a short answer to a an incorrect question?

    And im the idiot? Stop projecting
     
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    The notion that killer bee is better at dealing with larger groups of people is false seeing that on panel we have an entire army believing them attacking each other was the work of itachi. We have also seen a low level genjutsu user put an entire stadium to sleep. Why do we assume in a war scenario considering its already been on panel that itachi while using a whole lot less chakra than killer bee would need for a BD cant dispatch more people than the blast radius of bijuu dama which failed to kill suigetsu?

    so actually in all aspects of being a ninja itachi is superior

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    also please check out my manga on webtoons. Called Asagi
     
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    They are roughly comparable.

    I could see Itachi edging a fight between the two, though.
     
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    The fight is where they are closer , outside the fight this ain’t close Itachi is his superior by what we saw on panel , by other ninja hype and even Bee’s own deference towards Itachi in the Nagato battle .
     
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    I would say Itachi even in terms of war utility now that I think about it. Bee might be better at fodder cleaning thanks to his aoe and size but Itachi's perfect combination of intelligence and battle strength is just invaluable. It was thanks to him that Obito lost so much manpower after edo tensei has been undone. That speaks volumes Imo.
     
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