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Who was portrayed as stronger, A3 or Jiraiya?

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Soldierofficial, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. Soldierofficial Well-Known Member

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    Who was portrayed as stronger, A3 or Jiraiya?
     
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    Can you see A3 beating Pain w/ knowledge?
     
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    Jiraiya.
     
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    Can you see the skills Pain used on Jiraiya having any effect on A3? Chances are, A3 would've pushed Pain further than Jiraiya ever would.
     
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    Jiraiya.

    Preta absorbs his RCM and all his chakra based attack, Human path soul rips him or they both stab him with chakra receiver and kill him.

    Pain low diff kills him with only 2 paths.
     
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    Jiraiya.

    Although A3 would probably rip him apart. His speed, durability and black lighting wouldn't give Jman a chance to go into SM where his only choice is frog song.
     
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    Jiraiya. Being equal to Itachi, giving Pain a hard time, and being able to defeat Pain if he knew his secret is more impressive than stalemating Gyuki or fighting an army imho.
     
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    A3's physical durability outside of the shroud is still far stronger. Who's to say they will catch A3 when A3 himself is faster than Jiraiya anyway?

    A3 managed to dodge multiple times against KCM Naruto..who's to say he can't dodge the paths?
     
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    They're on the same general level but Jiraiya is more "special" due to having a more unique power as one of the prodigal three ninja imo.
     
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    That wouldn't matter against Human path soul rip or chakra receiver.

    They will react to him if he charges and Preta path grabs him.

    He can't dodge attacks if his RCM gets sapped by Preta.
     
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    No. Can I see Jiraiya doing it when a superior Naruto couldn't? No.

    Preta hard counters A3. How is it a low diff if he's using that Path?

    Human Path is nowhere near fast enough to rip his soul out before he rips its face off if it couldn't even compete with SM Jiraiya's speed. Not to mention, Chakra Rods can't pierce through RCM.

    No.

    And no.
     
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    If only 1 path shuts down almost everything A3 can do then it's a low diff fight.

    I meant it as in Preta and Human fighting together. Shared vision counters blindside or blitz attempt.

    It did later on when he reacted to his blindside attempt.

    Chakra rods aren't your average weapon, they will pierce through A3.
     
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    Based on?
     
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    Jiraiya

    -Can defeat people like Konan, Kisame, and Base Itachi easily while in Base. Compare that to the amount of effort A3 had to use against relative fodder (Temari, Dodai) while in his strongest known form (Raiton Armor).

    -Has Itachi and Kisame uncertain about their ability to beat him.

    -Pein thought Jiraiya could beat him.

    -A SM Naruto Clone was able to defeat A3 after being told of his weakness, while a full powered SM Naruto was only comparable to SM Jiraiya.



    The only potential arguments in favor of A3 are that...

    -He stalemated the Hachibi while Base Jiraiya barely beat Kn4, but that was just Base Jiraiya and Jiraiya actually won. We have no way of really scaling Kn4 to the Hachibi and didn’t see either fight, so which is more impressive is subjective.

    -A3 has had the Amber Sealing Pot, which is incredibly hax and gives him the ability to beat anyone without knowledge.



    I’d say Jiraiya is definitely portrayed as above A3 without the pot, but with it they are on the same general level.
     
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    Jiraiya. He was portrayed on peer with Juubito. That puts him above anything A3 had been acknowledged for.
     
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    They're more or less comparable, A3 tied with wild Hachibi, this is more than enough as a feat to rank him on par wtih another Sannin. However, I still think Jiraya is slightly stronger than him.
     
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    Third Raikage of course. Jiraiya could not beat Pain, even in sage mode. He was absolutely no match for four-tailed Kurama. So obviously he cannot beat Gyuki. A beat Gyuki very easily. He is even close to Edo Madara and sage mode Hashirama.
     
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    How is it wrong? They are all correct. You think Jiraiya can beat 10, 000 joinins and chunins. Think of it. A was used by Kabuto before Madara. This means that he is the closest to Madara out of all the re-animations. Blind Madara beat all the tailed beasts together. He should be able to do that too even if it would have been much harder for him. Didn't you hear how easily he beat eight tails?
     
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    The fact that they stopped EMS Sasuke's enton arrow and were still jammed inside Bijuus bodies after transformation.

    Normally it wouldn't be possible to hit SM Naruto either because in SM he can fall on large spikes without a scratch.
     
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    Didn't Pain's rods break on contact with SM Naruto?
     
  24. Limbo what are you so afraid of

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    It looked more like Naruto broke it by counterattacking imo. It makes sense since later SM Naruto could easily pierce himself with a black rod .
     
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    I see.

    I still don't see the rods piercing A3 when FRS was portrayed as inefficient against him.
     
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    Sure, simply gave my two cents on the SM Naruto part
     
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    1. In an open and unrestricted location Jiraiya would lose to Pain even if he started in Sage Mode. Within Amegakure however Pain didn't use his large scale jutsu such as Cho Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei due to their destructive power. If Jiraiya had been granted full intel on the number of paths as well as their respective abilities/secret(Nagato), he could've devised a plan to take them out utilizing guerrilla tactics. Deva himself admits to this .
    2. Jiraiya's fight with kn4 was completely off panel and you have to take into consideration the fact held back in order to prevent harm from befalling Naruto. His goal was to take Naruto out of the form, not kill him. That should give us insight into the handicap Jiraiya had in that scenario.
    3. A3 is nowhere near Edo Madara or SM Hashi. Both of them would send his ass into oblivion.
     
  28. JiraiyaFlash Satô no Kyoki

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    Definitely Jiraiya (as all other Sannin)

    And ı already made a case for that -> ( )
     
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    Denying canonical statements doesn't make your argument, if you can even call this an argument, any stronger ya know.
     
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    The one who stalemated a full biju on his own?

    Or the one who damn near died to a fraction of a bijus power?

    Gee i wonder

    Biju level portrayal is something Jiraiya cant even fucking dream about.
     
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