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Who was portrayed as stronger, Healthy Kimimaro or Part One Kakashi?

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Orochimaruwantsyourbody, Dec 7, 2018.

  1. Orochimaruwantsyourbody Well-Known Member

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    In your opinion?
     
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    Healthy Kimi was probably portrayed higher tbh

    Iirc Kabuto stated that had Kimi been at his best and present for the Konoha Crush, it very likely would have had a different outcome. That, to me, implies a degree of inferiority on Kabutos part, as its not like he tipped the scales any.

    And Kabuto is portrayed as equal or greater than Kakashi.
     
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    He's not.
    He's portrayed orochimaru's best battle tool which kabuto is not, he's a spy not a combatant.
    But against someone like kakashi..nah.
    Kabuto also states no one in konoha can stop kimi but we know that's a lie as Tsunade can ass pound him 7 ways to sunday so Kabuto probably meant the one's who were pursuing Sasuke.
    Part 1 kakashi is portrayed as Konoha's elite. Explicitly stated as It's best jounin. He was considered a threat to Kisame by Itachi.
    Kisame was leagues ahead of Kimimaro. The fact that Kimi's biggest fight was v Lee and Gaara puts him in that bracket and not elite jounin bracket.
     
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    Ask Rock Lee and Gaara.
     
  5. Orochimaruwantsyourbody Well-Known Member

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    Edited the thread for healthy Kimi.
     
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    Kakashi.

    He was the best Jonin alongside Gai in Konoha, and both were portrayed to be on the level of Kisame in part 1. I'd take an Itachi hype over a Kabuto/Orochimaru hype any day. And I doubt Kimimaro was Akatsuki level.

    So... :oldshrug
     
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    Kimi>Jugo to the point he could restrain him without killing him is what has me reconsidering my previous strongly held view of PI Kakashi>Kimi, as I think Jugo and similar opponents would be tough for Kakashi. :hm

    Thoughts?
     
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    Suigetsu also restrained Juugo. Albeit in a more... mortal way, but he did so easily. And Kisame called him a kid (And Sasuke told Suigetsu he wasn't on his level)

    It's more like a Kidomaru's web thing. He had webs powerful enough to restrain even stronger opponents, but in battle he might not be able to beat Jonin levels.
     
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    I think Juugo is similar to Karin in the sense that he isn't a straight up combatant and his powers are situational depending on his emotional state (Sasuke). He was easily dispatched by base Killer Bee off-panel, using nothing but CQC.
     
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    Just to add something more: Kimi was > Juugo who was likely 15 years old or less, as it was in part 1. We don't know at what age Kimimaro was able to subdue him, but it was 15 years old or less.

    19 Year old Juugo should be another story.
     
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    Kimi was portrayed as more powerful, but I still think Kakashi would defeat him in a fight.
     
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    Kimmi was

    Kabuto was declared as Kakashi's equal in combat, and we see in the hospital fight despite how short it is, Kakashi didn't really get an upper hand there either.

    And with how much Kabuto sucked Kimmimaro's dick.. :oldshrug

    And people harp too much on Lee tagging Kimmimaro. Even Gai had trouble restraining him, and Kimmi would've killed him anyways if it weren't for Gaara :kanyeshrug
     
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    Kimi was portrayed as more powerful. Kabuto who is equal to Kakashi admitted that Kimi was Orochi's greastest servant which means Kimi>Kabuto which also means Kimi>Kakashi.
     
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    I've arrived, to end the bs in this thread!!!!! :kksharing

    Kimamoro was noted to be Orochimaru's greatest servant by Kabuto. Perhaps Kabuto doesn't consider himself a servant and more of a partner given his egotistical actions? But let's say I'm wrong. That still doesn't make Kimamoro stronger than Kakashi. Orochimaru and Jiraiya noted that Kabuto was on the same level as rusty Kakashi. That doesn't mean they're equals in a literal sense, but rather that they operate on the same plane and can compete with one another. Kabuto ran away from Kakashi twice. Think Jiraiya and Tsunade.

    Kabuto noted that the invasion would have gone more smoothly if Kimimaro were healthy. Maybe. Maybe he's wrong? This is the same guy who underestimated genin Naruto and got taken down by a damn rasengan. He is the king of miscalculations.

    Feats:
    I don't want to embarrass Kimimaro so I won't mention his feats.

    Contrast that with Kakashi's.

    Portrayal?

    Considered Konoha's strongest ninja and the greatest ninjutsu specialist in both the manga and databooks. Itachi considers his Sharingan skill remarkable. Tsunade was surprised that two Akatasuki members managed to take Kakashi out. Gai considers Kakashi his rival.

    And we're to believe Kimimaro is stronger?
     
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    We don't really know what Healthy Kimi would be capable of. I mean, sure he'd beat Part 1 Gaara and half dead Part 1 Lee by not dying at the end, but that's it.
     
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    Kabuto who had the same level as Kakashi said Kimimaro was Orochimaru's strongest servant.

    Kimimaro > Kabuto = Kakashi
     
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    Thats an extremely general statement. He could've easily meant in terms of what Kimi was sacrificing(his soul and body).


    OT: Kakashi takes it. Being portrayed as the strongest jonin in Konoha tops any portrayal Kimi got.
     
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    WOW even a 8 years old kid would understand that as soon that kimimaru would have been healh , orochimaru would have take his body for himself and the destruction of konoha would have been without problem
    that why kabuto said that and even a kid would understand that
    i can't believe you are say that i mean everyone who know the manga naruto are aware that orochimaru was obsessional about kimimaru body
    and you are saying that if kimimaru was healh , orochimaru would have just let him fight with him as a team to destroy konoha

    you can't be serious ^^


    anyway kakashi is much stronger then kimimaro who considered sick lee a strong ninja and considered kid garaa a "formidable ninja "
    seriously in front of kakashi elite juunin full power they are just some kid playing

    also for those who think that kimimaro is the strongest sevant and use that argue to say that he is above kabuto , it is wrong
    kabuto is a partner of orochimaru , he is his right hand who do lots of experimentation medical on body for oro
    his relation ship with oro in part 1 was even very weird ( oro to kabuto : "if you want to STOP ME you need to kill sasuke , you are strong but just on kakashi level " )

    kabuto isn't the servant of orochimaru , he is his partner who have his own interest to be with orochimaru

    kabuto himself know very well how strong is healh kimi and he said " i wonder who is the strongest between you and sasuke "( kabuto was refering to sasuke kid cs2

    also people need to understand that when kimi fough garaa , he use all his strongest power , his strongest move , meaning that a healh kimi would have done exactly the same jutsu with same amount of power , the only difference is that he would have not died from a sickness and would have kill garaa and very sick lee

    kakashi is portray way stronger , he put a good fight against itachi sharingan before he use his ms
    remember that same itachi who totally oneshot sasuke chidori with healh lee speed/taijutsu ??

    that same sasuke who was much much stronger and faster then sick lee who fough kimimaru ( who admit that sick lee was strong )

    itachi in his base avoid sasuke chidori full speed as it was nothing for him , the same way gai avoid garaa kid sand when he try to kill lee during the chuunin examen

    seriously i don't understand how people can think that kimi sick or healh would have even 1% chance of beating kakashi elite jounin
     
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    Kimimaro being called Oro's strongest servant is a spotty translation. Never happened in viz.
     
  21. Muah HADE BARA BOGE PYA

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    beating garra is impressive as it was a year or two later he was A kage.
     
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    Same thing can be said about CE Gaara yet it's unimpressive.
     
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    Depends on whether or not he was truly above Kabuto.

    You don't go around calling your business partners your "lord."
    Nah I'm pretty sure they said he was on the same level as Kakashi period. The word "rusty" was nowhere to be found in their assessment.
    Not for fear of Kakashi's strength. Seeing as you mentioned Jiriaya and Tsunade, you should recall that he was eager to fight the former and delivered a beatdown to the latter.
    Maybe he is. That's still him putting Kimmimaro on a pedestal.
    I dunno about him being stronger, but that laudry list of hype didn't stop him from being portrayed as peer to the likes of Kabuto so...:catshrug
     
  24. Muah HADE BARA BOGE PYA

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    not really dont know what ce is but beggining of story Garra was murking jounin beat sasuke and in shukaku form had kage level destruction so hes imppressive at anytime.
     
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