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Who's more talented, Minato or Sasuke?

Discussion in 'House of Uzumaki' started by Bookworm, Nov 28, 2018.

Who's more talented?

  1. Sasuke

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  2. Minato

    71.9%
  1. Bookworm Well-Known Member

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    Please don't use the Indra Reincarnation argument or rinnegan argument, I feel like that's just lazy. Use any other feats and statements, unrelated to Indra reincarnation. IMO Sasuke is more talented due to the variety of powerful justu he created and the fact that his growth dwarfed Oro's at the same age.
     
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    Minato.
     
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    Sasuke if we count Rinnegan, but before that Minato had slight better stats and a wider variety of jutsu, but it's close..
     
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    Rinnegan is restricted along with Indra stuff.
     
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    Minato is at a level similar to itachi, which is above sasuke regarding raw talent. He developed many unique jutsu and became one of the youngest kage. He gets my vote.
     
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    I'd say Sauce is more talented imo more of a natural prodigy given he surpassed Orochimaru in his prime - who's known to be the greatest once in 10 decades kinda prodigy whereas Minato is simply a once in a decade, not that impressive imo - in base.

    He manufactured the best inklings of Ninjutsu there is - such as Kirin, Chidori Variants etc cera - and mastered, adding his own creativity imagination in the finishing move, Lee's move: Front Lotus, in less than a week. A superiorly immasterable Taijutsu martial art within a week, given Neji and Tenten (who wielded S06P's weapons w/ confidence) couldn't begin attempting it's mastery on a full span of multitude decades.
     
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    Minato.

    Sasuke never came as talented to me tbh. Neither does any Uchiha for that matter. :catshrug

    In Minato's case, he had to do his shit on his own. As he created jutsu and improved others...etc.

    In Sasuke's case, however, the same cannot be said.
    A) he got powered given to him like CS, Hago's power, EMS and so on.
    B) The Sharingan/MS does not require talent to be activated. Feel sad, you they get activated (most uchiha) feel happy they get activated as well (Salad) so it's hard to miss. :catshrug

    And once you get MS, you get autmatic moves without doing anything. Obito was descriped as talentless for example, he just saw Rin Die, and MS got activated and he recived a broken jutsu taken him several tiers above his level at the time.

    I don't see that having anything to do with talent. :catshrug
    and by extension, I don't see Sasuke's alleged talent either...
     
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    Sasuke was fairly talented early on

    As evidenced by him being among the top students and pretty much getting the drop on two chunin during his first A rank
     
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    I would say Minato is more talented. Most of his strength comes from how powerful he managed to make himself. Learning SM, developing FTG usage that gave him the monicor of fastest shinobi and creating techs like the rasengan lands him higher placement in my book.
     
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    Sasuke is more talented than Naruto who was implied to be more talented than Minato. :catshrug
     
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    Sasuke’s talent shouldn’t be slept on

    He improved Chidori and created multiple variants that can be used in a multitude of ways

    Created Kirin

    Mastered summoning

    Learned a nature transformation at age 8

    Sasuke is a pretty impressive dude
     
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    Minato and he wasn't even in his prime

    This wouldn't even be a debate if he was.
     
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    Minato.

    Sasuke is the definition of privileged as almost all of his powers/abilities were either given to him or came genetically(MS, EMS, Rinnegan, CS, etc). He only worked for things pre-defect(base Lee speed, Chidori, chakra control, etc).

    Minato on the other hand was a natural genius who had to work for all he had.
     
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    1. Minato was hailed as a once in a lifetime genius by Jiraiya
    2. Was picked over Orochimaru as Hokage
    3. Had the highest academy scores ever (above even Itachi's)
    4. As a Genin he saved Kushina from some Jounin seemingly easy
    5. Invented the Rasengan
    6. Learned Sage Mode
    7. Improved FTG (that was created by another Leaf Genius in Tobirama)
    8. Figured out how to counter Kamui in moments
    However if you just go by the fact that Sasuke iis the co-main character of the show, of course kishi is going to give him his due. But with little panel time Minato did the most.
     
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    With what?

    Hell he only learned Chidori through Kakashi (who he himself invented the jutsu first)
     
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    He learned Fireball jutsu

    That’s like saying Minato only learned fuinjutsu through Kushina in a attempt to downplay. How they learned it doesn’t matter.

    Sasuke invented Kirin, Chidori Nagashi, Chidori Senbon , and Chidori sharp spear etc
     
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    Don't Uchiha have a natural affinity for katons though?
     
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    Sure but it’s still uncommon for it to happen so young
     
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    For an average Uchiha or child, yeah. But Sasuke was the leader's kid and was being taught by him how to do it.

    Quite different from...lets say, Naruto learning KB, Kakashi learning Chidori, or Minato Rasengan.

    It doesn't take much talent to learn a jutsu when you're taught by the 'best', just hard work. And less work than the average person since it's pretty much in your genes to learn such jutsu. Even Kid Obito was skilled with katons.
     
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    Sasuke created Kirin so...
     
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    Yeah, I'm not saying he isn't talented. But on the topic of katons(Fireball specifically), it just isn't impressive coming from him.

    His raiton creations are legit though.
     
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    Fugaku showed him the Great Fireball technique once

    Sasuke went on to master it on his own
     
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    >over time
    >for an element he's genetically suited to

    His hand seal speed was still slow(as seen during Bell Test) and the size was still small. So yeah, he learned it. I wouldn't say he mastered it by that point.
     
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    Is Superman more talented or Batman?

    Outside of raiton and Fire techniques everything is genetics not talent.
     
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    Every raiton jutsu, which he has an affinity for. If you noticed in my post I didnt even mention any sealing techs for Minato.

    Fire Ball jutsu is a common jutsu among Uchiha anyways. Hell even Kakashi could do it, and Jiraiya. Giving Sasuke praise for basic Katons is stupid.
     
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    Oh so having a affinity for a nature just suddenly invalidates Sasuke’s accomplishments? Now THAT’s a stupid line of thinking. The point remains everything Minato gets praised for Sasuke has done something similar .

    Created a jutsu ? Sasuke created an S-rank one by the time he’s fifteen.

    Improved on a jutsu created by a genius? Sasuke took Chidori to new heights.

    Hailed as having more potential than Orochimaru ? Check

    Sasuke’s Genin feats are ridiculous

    Sasuke’s ability to analyze has been praised by Madara on multiple occasions and Minato himself
     
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    Nah. Sasuke was fairly talented early on without awakening the Sharingan. He was already Chunnin lv even early on. The difference is in their bloodline. Obviously if we consider hard work Minato got the drop because he even mastered his own creative techniques.
     
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    Obviously the guy who managed to elevate himself to such heights with hard work rather than the guy being conceived by some glorious DNA dick which automatically gives him advantage over 90% of the verse. Not to mention the gifts from aliens and wierd pale woman who was also once a guy.
     
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