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Who's statement are you calling bull****?

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by MaruUchiha, Dec 7, 2018.

Who's statement was most bullshit?

  1. Jigen >= Hokage Naruto

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  2. Prime Hiruzen > Hashirama

    10 vote(s)
    35.7%
  3. Sakura = KCM Naruto & EMS Sasuke

    12 vote(s)
    42.9%
  4. BoS Sasuke > 3 Tails Naruto

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  5. Part 1 Kabuto = Part 1 Kakashi

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  1. MaruUchiha The Fourth Six Paths

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    Who's statement was the most bullshit?

    Kawaki says Rikudou Sage Mode Hokage Naruto "might" be stronger than Jigen

    Iruka says Prime Hiruzen was stronger than Hashirama

    Sakura says she is equal with KCM Naruto & EMS Sasuke

    Orochimaru says BoS Sasuke is way stronger than 3 Tails Naruto

    Orochimaru says Part 1 Kabuto is equal with Part 1 Kakashi


    Who else's statements are you calling bullshit?
     
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  2. Santoryu Scarecrow

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    Well we know Iruka was talking nonsense, but it's arguably a retcon.

    While Kabuto is not as impressive as Kakashi, Orochimaru only said they're on the same "level". As in, they can compete with one another. He did not say they're equals. Now consider that both Orochimaru and Jiraiya had been away for a while, and that Kakashi was rusty, it may make a bit more sense. And we know that Kabuto was able to at least compete with a rusty Sannin who highly praised his skillset.
     
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    Iruka's is the most BS according to what we have been shown. To be fair though he did say "it is said". So he wasn't repeating a fact but a story.
     
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    Well i havent seen Jigen do anything so cannot call BS.

    Prime Hiruzen greater then Hashirama absolute BS though.
    Sakura = Naruto and Sasuke also BS.
     
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    Yeah Iruka has the most irrelevant statements he is a damn fanboy scrub.
     
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    Sakura never claimed she was their equals.
     
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    But she did say that she caught up to them, which in itself in fantastically, erratically, obscenely, and fanatically absurd.
     
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    Caught up meaning she can now hold her own in battle.
     
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    No you see she caught up cause she can stand next to them while they fight without being a complete liability.

    Whereas Iruka would die to collateral damage.
     
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    If you're applying that context, we could say she could do that in BOS as evidenced by her battle with Sasori, no?

    Unless you want to make the case that she caught up "mentally"? Which is still a stress given her later frailty regarding Sasuke.
     
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    Irukas is easily the most bullshit

    Sakuras statement is actually less ridiculous and thats fucking saying something :lmao

    As for Kawakis, youve gotta consider that Kawaki is far too weak to fathom the actual depth of Narutos power. Even an incredibly powerful fighter AND skilled sensor like SM Naruto couldnt see an end to the Juubis power, and there are things much stronger than the Juubi.

    Kawaki is likely in the same boat.

    Nothing wrong with either of Oros statements. 0 reasons to doubt either one.
     
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    1- Jigen power is unknown, and that statement shows that Naruto is stronger than him not the other way around.
    So, this cannot be called BS as of right now. We will have to wait and see how powerful Jigen is to see if the comparison is BS
    or not, however.

    2- It's not BS. Hiruzen was indeed stronger than him as showing in the manga that Hiruzen defeated both Hashirama and Tobirama at the same time which proves that statement to be correct at the time. It just as Kishi's ideas changed over time and the plot changed from Naruto to the Uchiha taking all the focus, that statement got retconned as a result seeing how Hashirama got more relevant as a result.

    5- I don't think it's much of a stretch to say part 1 Kabuto and Kakashi were around the same level tbh. :catshrug


    So, it's between #3 and #4. :hm
    I would say Sakura = KCM Naruto & EMS Sasuke is the BS out of those. :catshrug
     
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    he said Kabuto is not stronger than Kakashi.
     
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    So close to agreeing with you for once
    :scust
     
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    Are you referring to him joking?
    Jiraiya later stated that Kabuto could at least compete with Kakashi too.
     
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    Even in BOS, she needed to be protected and was not allowed to fight on the front line due to her training the seal allowed her to actually stand beside instead of behind them.
     
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    I dont give a fuck :catshrug

    99% of your opinions arent even real anyway.

    Dont think ive seen you NOT troll even once.
     
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    She fought against Sasori, an S rank, Kage level shinobi. What do you mean she wasn't allowed to fight on the front line? Sure, she was assisted by Chiyo, but that doesn't support your point because she was assisted and saved multiple times throughout the war.

    She could physically stand beside them even without the seal.
     
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    he said something like "Kabuto, this is the best moment if you want to try to kill me. But know you this: you are not stronger than Kakashi".
    Jiraiya as well as Orochimaru knows little in the first place, especially about shinobi who "himself doesn't make a display of his true strength" (DB1). And secondly, Jiraiya was trying to keep Naruto away from the battle, thus he said this.
     
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    I don't remember reading this translation. Again, if you're arguing linguistics, we'll have to bring in a fluent Japanese speaker who could analyse the original text.

    I did note that they were guesstimating. I don't think that's the only reason Jiraiya said that. Surely, Kakashi gave him some information about Kabuto's retreat.
     
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    Yeah, a translator would be nice here.
    Meaning Jiraiya concluded Kabuto is as strong as Kakashi based on that retreat (which didn't give us the reason to believe so)?
     
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    Iruka's statement but only because it got retconned

    Sakura is second because I don't see how they're even in the same tier but she's not a liability to them I guess

    Jigen is third, I agree with World's conclusion on this and plus Jigen hasn't been seen yet

    Both of Orochimaru's statements haven't been contradicted in the slightest :oldshrug

    Neither had the upper hand on each other in the hospital and Jiraiya agrees with this

    In his second statement, BoS Sasuke is nigh-featless besides wtfpwning Team 7 in base. All of his future incarnations are kage level+ anyways, so it's not like Orochimaru's statement got magically retconned by future events either
     
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    Sakura's statement out of those is the most bullshit.
     
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    We have no way of knowing how powerful Jigen is in comparison to Hokage Naruto.

    We have no idea how powerful prime Hiruzen really was.

    Sasuke is stronger than Three Tails Naruto via Tailed Beast suppression.

    Kabuto and Kakashi are equals.

    Sakura it is.
     
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    What are u disagreeing with @WorldsStrongest
    The obvious answer would be Hiruzen>Hashirama, but I didn't think we were counting blatant retcons, rather than stupid untruths.
     
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    We are including all items mentioned

    Or else they wouldn't be mentioned

    And you just described exactly why I disagreed with you.

    Irukas statement is much further off the mark.
     
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    The last two are just manga facts. Kishimoto didn't compare Kabuto to Kakashi twice by accident. He was trying to tell us something. Not to mention that time Kabuto made Kakashi feel like he had to improve.

    I don't know enough about Jigen, so i'll exclude him.

    I'd say the statement about Hiru is the worst.
     
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  29. MawDezrtarsh22 Read my name....slowly

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    At the time it was true though, pretty much right up until the War Arc, maybe Pein arc when Minato got tons of wank.

    Based on what we know NOW, yeah, it was waaaaaaay off the mark, but back then it was true.

    But the others, when these statements were made, we knew RIGHT FROM THAT MOMENT that they were utter trash.

    Pretty simple tbh.
     
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    No

    At the time it was still equally as misinformed

    Iruka had never met Hashirama, Tobirama, or any of the current Kage of any other nation.

    Hell the fucker never even met the version of Hiruzen he was pimping...

    There is 0 way to argue that statements credibility no matter how you look at it.

    Its as credible as a 4 year old saying his dad could beat up Mike Tyson...
     
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