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Why Deku vs Kattchan is better rivalry than Naruto vs Sasuke

Discussion in 'My Hero Academia' started by Sword Sage, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. baski Baski

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    It seriously gets on my nerves when such contrived Bullshit happens. Bakugou could say to Jiro "Die of cancer you cunt" and you'd see her and Kirishima go "OMG Bakugou is right. We should get ourselves tested for AIDS or Cancer"
     
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  2. Dragon D. Luffy Lord of Calamity

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    Naruto is an outdated anime that doesn't compare in writing to modern stuff

    Next.
     
  3. Extravlad Banned

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    MHA's writing is nothing special.
     
  4. Dragon D. Luffy Lord of Calamity

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    It's a step or two above Naruto.
     
  5. Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member

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    Part 2 nardo? Sure

    part 1 nardo? Hell no lol
     
  6. TrueG 37 Well-Known Member

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    Sad part is you aren't exactly wrong :kanyelul.
     
  7. KOBA235 Well-Known Member

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    Kirishima calls out Bakugou for being rude multiple times actually.
     
  8. Tayimus Number One

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    How does that address his point?
     
  9. KOBA235 Well-Known Member

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    Kirishima most likely would say: "Dude that's rude." He's not that clueless.
     
  10. Tayimus Number One

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    No, seriously, how does that address his point? The point is that Bakugou gets wanked on dumb shit. Your job, shoukd you choose to accept it, is to prove it doesn't happen. Yet you bring a character that would feebly tell Bakugou "That's rude..." to which Bakugou would just scoff and ignore. Is it because Kirishima was named in the example? Great, Kirishima might not wank Bakugou as an "asshole savant," but what about everyone else?
     
  11. Jujubatman12 Well-Known Member

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    No, Jiro wouldn't say that, she was say he rude or something. It was shown that they dint even take him serious when he first came to U.A. they were making fun of bakugou on the bus like he a idiot.

    The classmates actually see that he smart and wins everything. Ofcourse they would take what he says into considering sometimes.
     
  12. baski Baski

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    After which they would indeed proceed to go and get themselves checked for cancer. Slight hyperbole aside you have to admit every shitty thing he does turns out to have some deeper meaning from out of nowhere. The manga is full of examples. His announcing himself at the festival, his BS during the rehearsals for their band performance, him basically telling his teammates they're useless in the current arc and them contriving it into some strategy, and any interaction he's ever had with Deku.
     
  13. Jujubatman12 Well-Known Member

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    1. Him announcing himself at the festival led to boos and stuff. How did that get deeper meaning. He cocky
    2. What did he do during rehearsal?
    3. He literally told them they have to save him when he in trouble. How is that telling them they are useless?
     
  14. Extravlad Banned

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    I have always hated rivalries where one of the character is a submissive coward and that is very much what Deku is.

    Naruto/Sasuke had a good rivalry in part 1, then it turned into shit.
     
  15. SoulFire! Venerable Sage Moderator

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    I would say that Deku is far less submissive that when the story started. In the beginning he had been bullied and made a mockery of for years, crushing his natural courageous spirit. Since acquiring OFA Deku has progressively grown more confident in himself and is far less cringy in his interactions with Bakugo.
     
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    You're right but he still acts as if he is inferior and acknowledge Bakugo's superiority.
     
  17. Visa DekUravity Shipping Trash

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    For now :dotell
     
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    Deku is the kind of beta bitch who will still act as if he's inferior to Bakugo even when he'll be way stronger than him.
     
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    His goal is to surpass him. When he does surpass him, I'm pretty sure he'd act differently. He's a lot different now anyways.
     
  20. Tayimus Number One

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    I wince every time Deku says "Kacchan".
     
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    I'll never understand how Deku could possibly still view Bakugo as a friend after all the shit he did to him.
     
  22. lol 4th dimension reiatsu Well-Known Member

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    How can someone have a rivalry with a stepping stone :maybe
     
  23. Tayimus Number One

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    Funnily enough, I can't tell if you're talking about Deku or Baku. The line fits for both of them. :bookerskully
     
  24. lol 4th dimension reiatsu Well-Known Member

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    Bakugo has nothing to win from Deku, it's always been like that.

    He never needed something to motivate him to try and get stronger, even if he did there's Shoto and others to fight against. For Deku he gets to steal and improve all of Bakugo's moves.
     
  25. Tayimus Number One

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    Didn't Bakugou describe Deku as a pebble beneath his feet? Did I imagine that?

    All Might.

    Eh. You're not wrong. :catshrug
     
  26. lol 4th dimension reiatsu Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't it a pebble at the side of the road, aka someone that shouldn't even be in the competition?

    With a stepping stone I mean that the moment he has nothing else for Izuku to steal he becomes Piccolo or at best a Vegeta, since he has no relevance in the OfA vs AfO clash which is the main plot from the manga.

    His character arc might seriously be leading up to a moment like this :lmao
     
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  27. Tayimus Number One

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    Maybe. I'm way too lazy to check that right now.

    Finally someone else says it. I've been saying this shit for at least a year or two! Bakugou's relevance to the plot is entirely dependent on Deku's attitude towards him. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing since most of Class 1A would fall into the same bracket. But the story wants the reader to believe that Bakugou is important when he's not.

    Maybe. One thing's for sure, Bakugou is never winning the Husbando Tournament. :bookerskully
     
  28. lol 4th dimension reiatsu Well-Known Member

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    I mean

    The author outright stated in an interview that this is OfA vs AfO and everything else is just mean to lighten the mood because otherwise it was too dark :afo:dammit:slurp:froppy:midorihuh
     
  29. Sir Curlyhat Well-Known Member

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    Bakugo did play a role second only to Deku and All Might in Deku getting OFA ( sludge villain incident ), All Might losing the last embers of OFA and the defeat of AFO ( his kidnaping ) and is the only person from Dekus generation aware of him having OFA.

    I think that hes going to continue to be relevant for OFA vs AFO more so than the rest of the cast other than All Might, Deku, Shigaraki and AFO. Hes going to surpass Torino in that regard, and my headcanon is that hes going to defeat a weakened AFO, getting some payback for the Kamino incident, and Deku will be the one to defeat Shigaraki.
     
  30. Jujubatman12 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, Bakugou knows the most about Deku and was at the scene he got his power.
     
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