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Why did Itachi torture Sasuke?

Discussion in 'House of Uzumaki' started by MaruUchiha, Jul 27, 2018.

  1. MaruUchiha The Fourth Six Paths

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    If Itachi was actually the typical Uchiha psycho that he was pretending to be then ok, but since Itachi was actually a good guy all along what was the point of tormenting Sasuke and eventually turning him evil?
     
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  2. Lord Valgaav Atomic Sables!

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    Uchiha are fucked up people in general. No matter how you sugarcoat it, their intentions don't justify their deeds. Itachi is no different and no better than the rest of them.
     
  3. MaruUchiha The Fourth Six Paths

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    My thoughts exactly
     
  4. Kiseki Release The Kraken

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    Seems like some of you never watched/read the whole story.

    Itachi wanted to give Sasuke the idea to become different/better. He had wished he would've stayed in Konoha and never became like him. He would've never hoped for Sasuke to go rogue or commit sins. Although Sasuke had asked Itachi why he expected him to just 'stay put' and be all ignorant of Itachi for the rest of his life? That is basically what happened. Itachi eventually let Sasuke know after dying that his intentions always had been from the heart and out of brother-love.
     
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    You do realise that a man is a hypocrite serial killer. He killed God knows how mich innocent kids. Torturing someone? He is simply fucked up.
     
  6. Kiseki Release The Kraken

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    Aside from his intentions we can't exclude what you just said. It is indeed a bit effed up.
     
  7. Yagami1211 The Dragon of Dojima

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    This was all a convoluted plan to have Itachi commit suicide by proxy of Sasuke.
    Itachi never forgave himself for the death of his clan.
    So he went and tried to :
    1 ) Make Sasuke hate him with a passion
    2 ) Gave him a drive to become stronger

    So that in the end Sasuke would kill him and awaken Mangekyou Sharingan.
    Once Itachi dead, Sasuke would take Itachi's eyes and get EMS.
    And then destroy the rest of Akatsuki.

    End result :
    1 ) Akatsuki Stopped
    2 ) Itachi punished for his actions. ( Something Sasuke wanted initially, but that Itachi wanted too. )
    3 ) Akatsuki stopped and Sasuke reverted as a hero.
    4 ) Uchiha Clan possibly redeemed.

    With Sasuke, Itachi tried to create an opposition to Akatsuki, fueled by Sasuke's hatred of Itachi. The destruction of Akatsuki was the ultimate goal of all this insane plan. Since Itachi is a member of Akatsuki, it would be hard to act directly against them without triggering a few red flags. So instead he tried to use Sasuke to destroy Akatsuki for him.

    To this end, Itachi prepared a few backups just in case there would be a setback.

    1 ) Implement a one shot Amaterasu in case Tobi would try to screw with Sasuke.
    2 ) Give Naruto Kotoamatsuki to have Sasuke brainwashed into protecting Konoha, so that he would destroy Akatsuki

    When Itachi joined Akatsuki, he fully expected them to all die sooner or later by a very pissed off and vengeful Sasuke. I even think Itachi joined Akatsuki so that Sasuke would kill them.

    The first part of the plan to make Sasuke stronger was a complete success.

    Unfortunately, his trait of keeping people at arm's length, including comrades, along with his sight of horrors and tragedies meant he tried to do everthing by himself without trusting others. His plan backfired big time and his resurrection shows that he has realized his shortcomings in this.
     
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  8. Acnologia Dragon King

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  9. PradyumnaR Konoha's Sublime Blue Beast Of Prey

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    Because he is an emo psycho.
     
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    Itachi isn't a very nice guy to be around...
     
  11. MaruUchiha The Fourth Six Paths

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    Lies.. He was actually a nice guy if you watch the filler episodes showing his life before he had to play the bad guy
     
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    I agree.
     
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    I strongly suspect the real reason is Kishimoto initially planned for Itachi to be more bastard than saint. Like pretty much every other villain in the series someone who was seriously effed up and did seriously effed up things but with an understandable motivation.

    If he was intended to be a loving brother who wanted Sasuke to be a great hero, torturing him physically and psychologically, forcing him to witness his parents murder a thousand times over and reinforcing the idea that he was helpless, weak and pathetic and could only become stronger by murdering the people closest to him was A Very Bad Idea.

    I think the 'killing the clan for Konoha' angle was decided before his first appearance and the rest was tacked on much later.
     
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  14. Lady Hinata ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

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    I'm still trying to figure that one out.
    Personally, my guess is that Kishi changed his mind halfway through and made Itachi a good guy.
     
  15. oMeGa1904 Mr. Incredible

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    It’s pretty much simple. To fuel his hatred. I think people here are mistaking Itachi’s character in general. The guy could kill anyone of his clan, I mean anyone even children, the mistake is in thinking because he was a reverse mole/double spy that means he is virtuous guy or a good one. He simply isn’t.

    In his plan Itachi is on the clock (disease) the best he can obtain from Sasuke is to get focused and spend all his time thinking on such task (traumatizing). So he did it and it was fruitful because of that Sasuke was very focused and when Kakashi gave him to choose between friends and revenge, the last side won.
     
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    If that was the case why would he tell him he needed to kill his best friend?
     
  17. Yagami1211 The Dragon of Dojima

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    Because as far as Itachi think, he was the closest person to Sasuke. Revealing that he needed to kill him was another reason for Sasuke to kill Itachi.
     
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    He wanted Sasuke to store up hatred, what in Itachi's opinion should help Sasuke becoming stronger(by concentrating only on training and mastering new Jutsu. Also, hating someone affects that person can beat stronger opponent) .
     
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    His way of convincing Sasuke he was truly evil so he can continue down the path of justice and take revenge on him.

    Yes in a very incredibly extreme manner so to speak.
     
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