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Why didn't Broly kill Frieza?

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Plague, Dec 1, 2018.

  1. Plague Punches People in the Face

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    He killed his dad, right?

    Just re-read some spoilers. Haven't seen the film, but it said something like "Broly wailing on Frieza for over an hour."

    Or something like that.

    If Broly's power is constantly increasing, and he's mad, and it's at the same rate it was against Goku and Vegeta earlier, shouldn't AN HOUR put him above Frieza easily? Enough to literally tear him in half?
     
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    Frieza is virtually impervious to physical damage, in regards to survivability. Remember, he can survive space, being cut into pieces, and has been witnessed getting the absolute fuck pounded out of him again and again and again and he's never needed the same kind of recuperation that any saiyan has.
     
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    His beatdown was literally a gag (Goku and Vegeta failed the fusion dance twice turning into Veku/Old Gogeta while Freeza was getting his teeth kicked in). It’s no different than Hercule surviving against Cell or Kid Buu
     
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    Plot was the only reason why the lizard wasn’t a smear across the landscape by broly
     
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    Stupid writing on their part, they could at least have Broly fight Beerus or something after he knocks out Frieza cold
     
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    Broly doesn't know that Frieza killed his father. He was tricked into thinking that Paragus died due to the collateral damage.

    After going SSJ, Broly completely loses his mind, raging and attacking everything in sight. Him attacking Frieza was just bad luck for the lizard, as before Goku escaped with Vegeta they led Broly all the way to where Frieza was watching the fight from.
    After they IT away Frieza is the only one left in sight so he channels all his rage towards him.

    But Frieza not dying after an hour against Broly is nothing more than shit writing and plot armor on the lizard's part as Toriyama seems like he still has plans for him.
     
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  7. Plague Punches People in the Face

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    Yeah it probably was just shit writing. Or it could be Broly's power doesn't increase by as much after unlocking SSJ. I'm leaning toward the former though.

    At the very least he should have at least cracked Frieza's skull or ripped off an arm. (Not hating on Frieza, just being real here.)
     
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    If they needed fusion to take on SSJ Broly, then Broly should've one-shot Frieza DBZ style
     
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    Despite being much stronger than old Broly, nu Broly feels less threatening than Old Broly
     
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    New Broly is The best,Old Broly is
    the stranger of the school.

    Freeza is number 1 in durability.





    Half Freeza survive The Planet namek explosion,imagine Golden Freeza durabity.

    No is easy Kill Freeza.
     
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    That durability excuse doesn't work considering Goku one shot him in RoF
     
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    Way less. New Broly would be a monster if he knocked out Frieza easily and killed him, and than killed Beerus in brutal fashion as an attempt to stall for fusion time. That would be way more threatening and dangerous for new Broly.

    In the end, Broly New is slapped with that DBS plot protection, if this was DBZ, Broly would crush all the Z fighters, along with Beerus and Whis with ease. But DBS doesn't have the balls to do something like that
     
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    Cause he is weak and dosen't have the power to kill Frieza. He is stronger but not strong enough to kill him even after an hour of continuous beat down.


    This is a feat for Frieza. And no one can take it away from him.
     
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    Frieza pretty much impossible to kill, his durability and endurance are insane. Even getting cut into pieces didn't kill him.
     
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    It would seem that the lizard also has cockroach genes somewhere in his dna.
     
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    You guys must be kidding. Frieza's been killed before by much weaker beings by comparison (Future Trunks, Goku in RoF).

    Broly literally on another tier even from Golden Frieza. It's just shit writing and the plot requiring Frieza survives.

    I won't deny that he's very durable, but this time around it was just shit writing that he survived a whole hour of mauling from SSJ Broly.
     
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    Aye, in DBZ, Goku had SSj3 and it got wrecked by Janemba like nothing. If this was DBZ, Beerus would be surpassed by Jiren, Broly would've surpassed Whis. I miss those DBZ days
     
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    What? Jiren is stronger than Beerus and i don't know what you're talking about with Whis but Broly ain't touching him in any capacity
     
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    Yeah DBS logic won't let Broly touch Whis (Yet)

    But if this was DBZ, Whis would get surpassed after like 80 episodes or so
     
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    It's different because hercule defeated cell frieza didnt defeat broly.
     
  22. cobe42 I'm ok with being wierd.

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    Maybe Freezer getting his ass beat is his of training.
     
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    Thank God the Z days are over and we moved past the garbage progression that was Z.
     
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  24. Xiammes Into Free Supporting Staff

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    I wouldn't say Z was garbage, but I like a more self contained powerscale. You have to keep making up dumb shit like in Heroes otherwise.
     
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    If you think Z is garbage then you have no business calling yourself a Dragon Ball fan. Dumbest thing I've heard today.
     
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    Them Z days where the best, and made the best moments. Super progression is as useful as Yamcha. Everyone basically is plot protected or plot powered.
     
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    Z power progression was garbage. Each being making the previous one fodder in comparison.


    Also you have no right in calling if anyone a Dragon Ball fan or not. Your a FanZ and your opinion is invalid for all intents and purposes.


    OG Dragon Ball and DBS > Z.
     
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    Struck a nerve, did I? :mjlol
     
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    Dude bow out bro,

    He believes chronoa from whatever game is canon and she created time or is responsible as in the canon time line.


    His entire existence here is to come with conveluted crack pot theories.
     
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    I saw. Don't worry, it'll be him that comes and curses at me when I prove him wrong. He's done that before. :mjlol
     
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