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Why didn't Itachi get a happy ending?

Ruthless Tsuchikage

Well-Known Member
Because he murdered countless people and tortured his brother into a coma.

Also Itachi did get a happy ending. He got everything he wishes for. His younger brother stayed alive and his clan became remembered as tragic victims rather than would be rebels trying to start a world war.
 

Fused

The Absolute God
He got a happy ending as he became Naruto's friend, all those who became Naruto's friends and/or were Talk no jutsu'd by him got a happy ending.

Conversely those who didn't get a happy ending are those who didn't submit to Naruto's nonsense.

Madara didn't get a happy ending aside from his brief reconciliation with Hashirama, his plans were squashed and his ideals were shattered, he died unfulfilled after sacrificing so much. The ultimate tragedy.

Kaguya and Black Zetsu are sealed for eternity.

No one will mourn for Kakuzu, Hidan, Kisame, Deidara, etc. etc. etc.

This is the plight of a franchise named after one singular character.
 

Ruthless Tsuchikage

Well-Known Member
Madara didn't get a happy ending aside from his brief reconciliation with Hashirama, his plans were squashed and his ideals were shattered, he died unfulfilled after sacrificing so much. The ultimate tragedy.
An irredeemable monster getting what's coming to him isn't exactly a tragedy :wink
 

Raiha

Active Member
An irredeemable monster getting what's coming to him isn't exactly a tragedy :wink
Why do you think he was irredeemable? Worse than him got TnJ. Some even changed hearts on their own. Most got away with a wrist slap.
And on the topic - Itachi did not get his happy ending because it would have been a big problem for everyone - he was a very wanted criminal, his relationship with Sasuke was weird and it would have been a problem to show how it progressed during the time skip for Boruto. He would have been a better father to Sarada if he was alive than Sasuke and we can't have that for various reasons - Sasuke having to redeem himself and his closest suffering alonside him from his absence, Sarada not being very relevant, Uchiha clan going extinct soon, etc. So all he got is death, post mortem redemption and probably watches over his brother now, facepalming and going "Foolish little brother, what the hell did you get yourself into? Why did you get stepped on by the moon people? Because ... you lack ... hatred/power/insert-your-own".
Luckily for his fans, Itachi is one of those "bring back in case of very low numbers" character so we might see him in the future in some form or another.
 

Fused

The Absolute God
An irredeemable monster getting what's coming to him isn't exactly a tragedy :wink
Evil or not it was still a tragedy, it is indeed a tragic story. The story of someone who spent his entire life (150 years) working towards one single goal, and whose entire plan was crushed completely right when he was on the cusp of victory. Even the final scene with Hashirama is purposefully drawn/animated as to show Madara in an utterly powerless and defeated position.

That is a sad/tragic ending, not Itachi's. Itachi accomplished everything he set out to do.

Even Black Zetsu had a sadder ending than Itachi LOL, because his 1.000 yo old planning was ultimately for nothing.
 

Ruthless Tsuchikage

Well-Known Member
Why do you think he was irredeemable?
Probably because he is. He is after all the evil force being partially or fully responsible for the woes of the ninja world and his end world is completely subjugating it to satisfy his god complex. Even his attempts to style the subjugation as noble are just poor disguises of him being fanatically in love with himself and unable to handle being remembered as the guy who lost to Hashirama. Zetsu even implies that for all the high and mighty words all Madara wants is just not being remembered as a loser anymore.

Itachi and to some extend Obito too are traumatized teenagers just lashing out. That reflects terribly on them but its something they might crawl back from. But Madara is something far more malicious than that.
 

Raiha

Active Member
Probably because he is. He is after all the evil force being partially or fully responsible for the woes of the ninja world and his end world is completely subjugating it to satisfy his god complex. Even his attempts to style the subjugation as noble are just poor disguises of him being fanatically in love with himself and unable to handle being remembered as the guy who lost to Hashirama. Zetsu even implies that for all the high and mighty words all Madara wants is just not being remembered as a loser anymore.

Itachi and to some extend Obito too are traumatized teenagers just lashing out. That reflects terribly on them but its something they might crawl back from. But Madara is something far more malicious than that.
The woes of the ninja world have nothing to do with him though - they existed before him and he did want to make it better. This is why he and Hashirama created Konoha. He wanted to spare the future generations the same life he and all before him lived to the point where he went and struck peace with the clan who was responsible for killing his brother. The brother he loved most in the world, mind you, as Hashirama stated that Madara loved Izuna more than Itachi loved Sasuke.
Is it a god complex when 99,99% of the population simply can't match with you? He was an exceptional shinobi and deserves every bit of credit he receives. After all, it is his and Hashirama's statues that tower over that valley. People who compared to others are like gods.
Also the guy lived a long time. He saw what was done and what wasn't done under the different Kages and the results. Konoha especially was not in a very good position. The bi-coloured flytrap is correct he is remembered as a loser because the winners write the history. And with Tobirama being Kage who knows how much information was altered to diminish Madara's positive contributions. Nothing wrong with wanting to redeem your reputation when it was unfairly portrayed.
I disagree Obito can crawl back from his teenage trauma and I think he is more malicious than all the Uchiha who went bad. Madara had reasons for his actions that do not include "You let X die.".
 

Dano

RIP uncle. Covid sucks.
He got an infinite more positive outcome (ending) than he deserves. He's a real life villain, full of dark actions and killing innocents for his own belief. More akin to a zealot.
 

Deana

Well-Known Member
Itachi's happy ending was Sasuke and Konoha surviving. Poor Kid was so coo coo for them there cocoa puffs, though.
 

blk

Well-Known Member
Because he murdered countless people

Self defense.

Those people planned to exterminate his side (Konoha) without justification (granted being soft discriminated is bad but not enough to warrant civil war, should have kept using diplomacy with Konoha) :catshrug

Otherwise would you consider Minato a bad guy because he killed Iwa soldiers?

tortured his brother into a coma.

That was bad but i wouldn't count it.

It's because Kishi had not yet planned for making him a good guy so it's retcon plot-hole.
 

Impulse785

Well-Known Member
Self defense.

Those people planned to exterminate his side (Konoha) without justification (granted being soft discriminated is bad but not enough to warrant civil war, should have kept using diplomacy with Konoha) :catshrug

Otherwise would you consider Minato a bad guy because he killed Iwa soldiers
What self defence against children that Itachi had no issue killing? :scoobyhuh
 

blk

Well-Known Member
What self defence against children that Itachi had no issue killing? :scoobyhuh

They would have been killed by Root afterwards either way.

Also being children doesn't really mean much in Narutoverse.

Some might have been soldiers already and you don't know which one are and which aren't (heck Itachi himself was like 12 or 13 at the time).

For example i'm sure Minato too killed Iwa/Kumo children on the battlefields that were Genin/Chunin/Jonins like Obito, Rin and Kakashi. Yet no one calls him evil :catsleep
Or same for Hashi, Tobi etc in warring states era.
 

Young Lord Minato

Don't stan, just fan
For him to be redeemed in the eyes of everyone, the truth of the Massacre would need to be publicized. Everyone who knows the truth seems content to keep it hidden.
 

Nep Nep

Forbidden Boi Cunt
It's a shounen, were people expecting deep philosophical dives into war time morals?

Also shounens have a bad habit of not letting the dead be dead. Hero or villain is strongly debatable in Naruto's world, Naruto is like the readers, dumb optimists that try to paint their modern morals on something we can't possibly understand. Living as a child soldier.

The fact that people actually stay dead in this manga is good. If you wrap up a character and let them go out on a big moment don't revive them.
Itachi went out at his best, helping to secure a future and correct some of his mistakes, that's as happy an ending as any decent writing could allow.
 

Crow

Well-Known Member
Cause he was a legit villain. Mentally tortured Sasuke with Tsukyomi several times, killed innocent women, children and babies, was a 'so called' spy in the Akatsuki but actually helped them capture bijuu. I don't care how much he loved Sasuke, but his actions don't justify anything.
 

dabi

Well-Known Member
Nagato, Obito, Kisame, and the rest of the Akatsuki didn't get happy endings. Itachi is no more deserving of one than they are.
 

Raiha

Active Member
Nagato, Obito, Kisame, and the rest of the Akatsuki didn't get happy endings. Itachi is no more deserving of one than they are.
Nagato was redeemed by the Lord and Savior Naruto by TnJ. Of course he got his happy ending! /s
 

Subtle

Well-Known Member
To Itachi, it wouldn't matter what the world thought rather his brother was the real prize where telling Sasuke the hidden truth removed him from his burden, a happy ending for him.
 
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