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Why isn't Shoto at the top in U.A?

Discussion in 'My Hero Academia' started by Luiz, Oct 29, 2018.

  1. Luiz Well-Known Member

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    He's got the most overpowered quirk of them all. It makes no sense.
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    He's at the top of the first years. Other grades likely have similarly strong people like the big 3.
     
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    He's largely recognized as the strongest and brightest first year (Bakugou isn't far behind in recognition but frightens people, and Deku has Saitama syndrome where he's seen as a scrub).

    His strength probably isn't special by 3rd year standards, we got people like Mirio there.
     
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    mirio can roflstomp shoto thats why
     
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    Power doesn't really mean much if you can't handle yourself properly. Like we saw during the license exam, Todoroki is still working through some personal issues that are holding him back.

    Plus, given that the image of a top hero in MHA is All Might, I imagine something similar applies to UA's top student(s). Todoroki has power and he can be cool and collected generally, but if you compare him to someone like Mirio, he doesn't have nearly as much personally or radiating assurance about him. He's like his father in that regard. He'll go in and get the job done, but he'll never be nearly as popular as the guy who can make everyone feel safe just by his smile and presence.
     
  6. luffy no haki 1st seat

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    Pretty much what has already been said. Plus with current fight Of Classes A vs B gives the idea that it seems plenty of people could be able to turn the tables on him through hax and/or strategy.
     
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    But he is :drake
    He's pretty much touted as the one of the strongest first years :drake
     
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    Shouto hasn't been truly driven since he got over his issues in the sports festival, while he was limiting himself, he was pushing himself as far as he possible could. I don't think the same could be said for current Shouto, he is finally working on his fire side, but he doesn't seem to putting 120% into it like he was before.

    Also Shouto(and Bakugo) are the only students who didn't get to do a work study, so most of the other students are farther along then he is for combat and practical experience.
     
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    I wonder about combat, i mean they have been fighting Gang Orca and co. since day one apparently
     
  10. Sir Curlyhat Well-Known Member

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    Quirk is not everything. Washing machine guy is the No.8 hero while the Dragon quirk chick was No.9 and got relegated to No.10.
     
  11. WorldsStrongest Dio With It

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    Hes viewed as the most promising first year by most people...Pros included...Thats why the kid got so many offers for his work term after the Tourney.

    He IS at the top of UA.

    The only students who would be above him would be older students, and even then hes likely near the top, or middle at worst, even including second and third years.

    At the Sports Fest, he was stated to be at or above the level of an average Pro Hero...Him being the leader of the pack among an entire high school (outside of the big 3 obviously) would not surprise me in the least. Especially when you consider how well 1-A did against the older students in the license exams. Shoto literally soloed ffs...Him being above older students is hardly news.

    The only students we know FOR A FACT are above Shoto are the Big 3...Aside from that, he could easily be UAs top student.

    Being > an average graduated Pro is high praise when your competition is literally a building full of wannabes and hopefuls.
     
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    He's considered to be the top student of 1-A, and is at he top of 1-A in my opinion. Whether he is or not is another matter, but top of UA? No way. Not when the Big Three are around. Not that it is a fair comparison, they're third years to Shoto's first year, but the very concept of the Big Three IMO sets it up for Midoriya, Bakugou and Todoroki to take their places later in the series.
     
  13. xenos5 Objectionable Objection

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    Nejire beats him at his own game, long range huge AOE/firepower. She can beat giant villains using less than half her full power.

    And she also has better mobility with Wring Wave flight.
     
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    Shouto can easily defeat her if he knows how she works her quirk, access her as he fights through her attacks, and pretty much closes the gap with his untapped fire power.
     
  15. xenos5 Objectionable Objection

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    Nah, you have no idea how powerful his "untapped fire power" is. But we DO know what Nejire can do with less than half power Wring Waves.

    And on top of that her speed/mobility with flight is not something Shoto can replicate.
     
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    Judging by what her colleagues can do,Nejire would flatten shouto
     
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    Tetsu Tetsu already has him against the ropes:drake
     
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    Why isn't he already at the top of UA? Nigga ain't even at the top of class 1-A let alone the whole school :camby :ippy
     
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    why isn't ChadsuChadsu at the top of UA :bury
     
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    Shouto would totally lose to Nejire, what is he gonna do against shockwaves that literally blow through both of his elements? :skully
     
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    I dislike how Shotos power was handled, the fight against Sero during the tournament first attack he did a huge-ass glacier with the size of buildings, pretty much impossible to dodge unless you are very close to him, now people just sidestep his shit, sometimes jump up 3 meters in the air and his ice spikes cant reach them, or smash / cut it like its made out of cake. and all that while he was supposed to get better and better in theory and unlocking fire powers and shit, while making the impression the mangaka just scales him back more and more so he wouldnt look ridiculously powerful compared to the rest, so now he feels just above average.

    he never supposed to look THAT OP in the first place.. same thing happened to Overhaul when he could only cover a hall with 7 m big spikes as long as Mirio had his quirk, after suddenly his shit got so small scare in comparison, like 1 m big, and when they took mirio away suddenly they got big again.

    the author has a problem keeping the powers consistent and coming up with believable ways for the opponents to counter them. like the way bakugou dug a tunnel in his ice with his explosions like a mole was ridiculous.
     
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    Just in talking about Shoto I'm sure a reader or counter argument really could be said that those big ass ice glaciers tap him out of a lot of strength/stamina so he doesn't choose to do them for actual battle. Another argument could be that he was angry and that was his "hidden potential" aka Gohan so he will probably come to nonchalantly makes icebergs that size in the future.

    As for the others I don't know I just watch anime
     
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    He's gonna bet on top of Ashido soon tho if Kirishima doesn't step up
     
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    What else could little Baku do? :grin
     
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    Thread can be closed monday when the answer is officially available online on the VIZ site :del
     
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    Mudman is OP
     
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    Depending on how big the gap to the big 3 is, most if not all 3rd years could potentially stomp even the big 3 (mintberry crunch, dorku and Mister 5) of the first year.

    So none of the new classes should be at the top.
     
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    Yeah if todo is having this much trouble with other first years I don't even wanna imagine how badly the 3rd years would body him
     
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