What's this?! An UchihaX28 thread that isn't dedicated to Uchiha wanking? Who is he and what has he done to UchihaX28? To preface, it seems as though people are constantly underrating Kakashi by denying any advantages Kakashi has in this match-up whilst simultaneously fabricating comparisons such as Jiraiya being faster with absolutely no basis. The purpose of this thread is for me to provide a thorough breakdown as to why Kakashi can beat Jiraiya. This is not a thread where you discuss your opinion on the matter because there's already another thread for that unless it directly pertains to the arguments that I'm presenting. Introduction Kakashi has a plethora of tools in order to win this match-up. He has the tactical mind that surpasses Shikamaru's, speed that can compete with faster competitors than Jiraiya, and the Sharingan which can be used in a multitude of ways which will be described later in this match-up. It's no surprise to anyone that Pain Arc Kakashi is inferior to Jiraiya who received praise from Pain for his performance against him. However, War Arc Kakashi has accrued even greater feats since then, received praise from Obito and Madara, displayed greater proficiency in using his Mangekyo, and finally mastered his Sharingan as of Databook 4. Kakashi is not the same person he was before the War Arc. Speed One of Kakashi's signature traits is not only his tactical mind, but his speed as well. He managed to battle against V2 Jins directly in combat who were wielding Obito's Sharingan and taking advantage of Shared Vision as a result. Many who don't view this as a significant thing forget to consider the fact that even before using Bijuu enhancements, Obito's Jinchuuriki were explicitly shown to be too fast for KCM Naruto and their Sharingan enabled them to see through all of KCM Naruto's and Base Bee's moves, both of which are much faster than SM Jiraiya. In spite of this, Kakashi managed to battle them directly while Jiraiya struggled immensely against Nagato's paths who were physically slower and did not have the major reaction buff that Obito's paths did thanks to his Sharingan. One point-blank blindside punch from SM Jiraiya was effortlessly cock-blocked by Human Path and he was forced to retreat and target Animal Path instead. Throughout the manga, Kakashi has accrued many other feats as well. He matched Itachi twice by showcasing the sufficient speed and reflexes necessary to see through Itachi's bluff and simultaneously react to his suiton attack from underwater. During that time-frame, Kakashi not only countered Itachi's attack, but he managed to bunshin feint him and caught him off-guard with a potential attack from under-water. He displayed even greater skill during their 2nd encounter when Kakashi bunshin feinted him within a few panels and restrained him to set him up for Naruto's Oodama Rasengan. Let's not forget that Itachi is quite the speedster and managed to bunshin feint Hebi Sasuke and swap places with his bunshin which his Sharingan could not detect while Kakashi could. Let's take this a step further and refer to Sasuke's feat against V1 Bee. He was weaker than Hebi Sasuke was yet displayed reaction speed that reminded Bee of Raikage. This doesn't mean Kakashi is flat out faster than V1 Raikage is, but it guarantees that Kakashi even prior to the War Arc displayed reaction speed comparable to V1 Raikage's based on his performance against Itachi who is faster than Hebi Sasuke is. Lastly, let's refer to Kakashi's speed relative to Gai. It's implied that Kakashi could compete with Gai several times in CQC which forced Gai to devise a counter through Sharingan Genjutsu because he couldn't counter him with his Taijutsu. This is the same CQC expert who outclassed KCM Naruto in taijutsu. Kakashi also managed to operate on a similar level as 6th Gate Gai as his Raiden matched 6th Gate Gai's Morning Peacock in speed. 6th Gate Gai also outsped Kisame before he could form a single thought and Kisame outmaneuvered Base Bee who could react to an attack from Minato and was fast enough to intercept a punch from V1 Raikage on Naruto at point-blank range. He also evaded V1 Bee effortlessly which we concluded is a feat that rivals Sharingan users and is within V1 Raikage's tier. Thus, we conclude that Kakashi during the War Arc is actually much faster than Kisame who is within V1 Raikage tier in terms of reflexes which is far beyond Jiraiya's paygrade here as it requires the likes of War Arc SM Naruto to precisely react to V1 Raikage. This may seem absurd to some, but Base Gai still outperformed KCM Naruto in CQC and easily reacted to a blindside attack from Obito, so this is equally as likely. The fact that Kakashi consistently competes with someone who outclasses KCM Naruto in CQC, can amp his speed even further through Gates, and has Genjutsu to apply constant pressure during a battle should cement his superiority over SM Jiraiya in that regard. Ninjutsu While it is true that Jiraiya's ninjutsu potential exceeds Kakashi's, people blatantly ignore one of the predominant advantages of the Sharingan which has been displayed during the beginning of the manga and it's the ability to read into ninjutsu and counter it effectively. This was illustrated during Kakashi's battle with Zabuza where he preempted all of Zabuza's seals and managed to replicate his ninjutsu which ended the match. Zabuza and Kakashi's stats at the time were relatively comparable and this result still happened. The speed disparity between Kakashi and Jiraiya as proven above is massive. Therefore, this event will inevitably happen where Kakashi preempts Jiraiya's seals, replicates them, and executes his jutsu before Jiraiya can even use his. Jiraiya's ninjutsu outside of Boss Summons which Kakashi can counter is not really that impressive to begin with and Kakashi holds the elemental advantage through Suiton and Raiton, so reading his seals to discern what type of jutsu is going to be used can also be used as a means to overpower Jiraiya. This advantage still holds true even towards the end of the manga even against a Perfect Sage, so the premise of Jiraiya having Sage Mode should guarantee victory in a ninjutsu exchange is an invalid argument and more accurately, a fallacy. Kakashi is not the generic elite Uchiha like Itachi is, he has a moniker that stems from his ability to use ninjutsu that is known throughout the entire world and the Akatsuki. Itachi being able to accomplish such a feat makes it more likely that Kakashi can to and integrate such a tactic into his fighting style seamlessly when battling Jiraiya. Sharingan Mastery This is something people gloss over when comparing War Arc Kakashi to his previous iterations. It's true that Kakashi is not an Uchiha which has been established to be a significant detriment for his ability to even use the Sharingan. However, as of Databook 4, Kishimoto explicitly states that Kakashi has finally mastered his Sharingan and can use it as if he were a full-blooded Uchiha. This entails that all of his abilities from using the Sharingan would receive a significant advantage including his perception, Kamui, ability to handle Sharingan strain, and Sharingan Genjutsu. It was heavily implied in Danzo and Sasuke's final exchange that. His skills of observation and ability to process external stimuli are greater due to mastering the Sharingan and it was for that very reason that Danzo lost to Sasuke despite wielding numerous Sharingan and possessing Hashirama's DNA. War Arc Kakashi is not the same Kakashi we once knew prior. He's a new man who can finally use his Sharingan more liberally and can use jutsu in conjunction with the Sharingan due to his ability to handle the Sharingan much like an Uchiha would. This also means that arguments that suggest that Kakashi won't use Kamui are inherently false. We're explicitly told numerous times that Kakashi refrains from using Kamui unless he was in a precarious situation due to the strain he experiences every time he uses it.   This is no longer the case with Kakashi who could clash with Obito as his equal in genjutsu, could use Kamui several times throughout the War Arc and outwitted Obito with it, and was praised by both Obito and Madara as if he were an Uchiha, the latter of which explicitly compared him to EMS Sasuke to some extent. He was tired throughout the War Arc yet used it multiple times against Obito, used it to warp the Hachibi (Kurama's chakra doesn't mean he handles the aftereffect any better), used it to warp in and out of Kamui dimension a few times (it was implied this was a viable strategy to counter Obito), used it on the Gedo Mazo, and continued to use it multiple times against Juubidara. It is clear that Kakashi's mastery over the Mangekyo Sharingan would give Kakashi no reason to not even use Kamui if the opportunity presents itself. Genjutsu Due to his increased mastery over the Sharingan, we have to consider how Genjutsu can be used to his advantage. Prior, an argument can be made that Sharingan Genjutsu is a non-factor. However, it's been established as of Databook 4 that Kakashi has mastered his Sharingan since then and Sharingan genjutsu has been a basic tool employed by Sasuke, Itachi, Madara and Obito. Because Kakashi clashed with Obito in genjutsu and was commended for his ocular prowess by both Obito and Madara, there's literally no reason why he can't even use his Sharingan at least as well as MS Sasuke could whose genjutsu in comparison was stated to be quite pitiful by both Danzo and Obito. This means that subduing Boss Summons is no difficult task at all. Not only did Hebi Sasuke with nearly zero chakra managed to subdue Manda instantaneously, but the Boss Summons are sluggish targets and it's significantly easier to land genjutsu on slower targets than it is with faster targets. It's explicitly why Raikage was immune to Sharingan Genjutsu. Because of this, subduing his Boss Summons shouldn't be a difficult task at all and they can be used against him. Let's also not forget that eye contact must be made in order to land Sharingan Genjutsu (obviously). Jiraiya admits that it's impossible to counter an attack without seeing it at all even if you're a sensor type. Kakashi is significantly faster than Jiraiya as proven before, so Kakashi's ability to apply constant pressure on Jiraiya will force him to make eye contact with Kakashi like Itachi did with Bee. This is reinforced by the fact that Gai needed to devise a way to counter Sharingan Genjutsu despite having the speed and skill necessary to clash with Obito and outclass KCM Naruto in CQC, react to a blindside attack from Obito on top of that, and has Gates to amp his speed even further. Sharingan Genjutsu is inevitable and it'd be stupid if Jiraiya were to confront Kakashi up close. Strategy It goes without saying, Kakashi's tactical prowess is significantly above Jiraiya's. He's smarter than P1 Shikamaru and has a greater sense of smell than P1 Kiba. The former can think of over 100 possible moves that can be made in a particular situation while the latter will prove very useful in tracking SM Jiraiya if he ever attempts to use Frog Song. Now, let's consider a couple of arguments that people make in favor of Jiraiya: 1. Jiraiya can use LoS blockers to obfuscate Kakashi. While yes, he can, but it's ridiculous to believe that Kakashi in that situation wouldn't devise a strategy in order to counter-attack. Kakashi managed to bunshin feint Itachi while erecting a Suiton barrier and using it to his advantage, he canonically bunshin feinted Itachi in the middle of his Katon and counter-attacked before Itachi could even launch a jutsu, and proceeded to bunshin feint Pain on an open-field despite the advantage of Shared Vision, something Jiraiya couldn't even overcome without a tactical retreat. The idea that Kakashi, the man whose intelligence rivals someone who can plan hundreds of possible moves within in a particular circumstance can't counter a simple smoke bomb is absolutely absurd. Smoke bombs was a tactic P1 Kiba could use and even P1 Naruto could counter it. Don't forget that. 2. Jiraiya has clones? Nothing needs to be said here. Kakashi can as well except he managed to bunshin feint Itachi, the best of the best, and canonically bunshin feinted Pain on an open-field. He also feinted Obito and managed to warp Naruto away without Obito noticing. Jiraiya's best accomplishment was spitting out a fireball against one of Nagato's Paths in an ideal situation where Pain had no choice, but to block it. This is an extremely generic strategy. It's almost as if people cry "clones" at the moment that somebody uses clones on-panel. Nothing would change at all if Jiraiya didn't use a bunshin on panel. If Jiraiya uses a bunshin, he counters with his own. If a generic usage of clones is his best way of landing Frog Song, Kakashi will have no problems. His sense of smell and proficiency in using clones cements this, as well as the fact that he can warp to Jiraiya's location easily through Kamui. Conclusion Kakashi can defeat Jiraiya overall. He is significantly faster, he's a superior tactician, his Sharingan can counter Jiraiya's ninjutsu, and his mastery over the Sharingan lends him multiple advantages that he didn't have before when considering this match-up. Inb4 Jiraiya is faster than Kakashi with no feats. Inb4 Jiraiya can avoid genjutsu with no feats. Inb4 Jiraiya counters Kamui with no feats. Inb4 Jiraiya throwing a smoke bomb KOs Kakashi with no feats. All right Sannin cult, let's see what you got. If you come up with a bogus argument with no evidence/feats to support it and some portrayal garbage such as "Jiraiya beat Juubito" nonsense, then concession accepted. Bring it on... Just make sure not to post an equally long response except with the typical lack of feats and substance behind it because I won't tolerate that shit in my thread homie.