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Fitness Workout Thread!

Discussion in 'Konoha Country Club' started by Kitsune, Jun 25, 2015.

  1. Kitsune `★.。・:*:・ Super Moderator

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    Making a thread where we can talk about our exercise goals and accomplishments (or just whine a little).

    Feel free to post before and after pictures or just discuss your progress in general.

    Let's get some motivation. :X3
     
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    Since nobody has posted, does this mean nobody works out on NF?

    Maybe they are just shy :{

    I'm usually pretty good about working out; can't really do much right now besides afternoon walks. I haven't decided on a fitness goal for the next few months though. I injured my foot at the start of the year and I'm trying not to push myself too hard.

    I think the hardest part for me is eating correctly. People are always trying to feed me junk. I even have coworkers baking tins of cookies and leaving them on my desk to screw with my self control.

    Anyway, I save different things that I find inspirational on my phone or computer- helps to look through some of the stuff before hitting the gym because I'm very visual. What else? Oh, I would love to do a 7k or something one day. We'll see :skysun
     
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    I go to the gym three days a week. I do some weights at first and then a tiny bit of cardio (bycicle) and an aerobic class. The class is the best part, it's really fun and I love just jumping around at the rythm of music.

    As for diet, I agree mine lacks. Not because of junk food but because I dislike meat so I don't have as much as I should, just because of taste.
     
  4. Kitsune `★.。・:*:・ Super Moderator

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    Me too. I just have a bit of a sweet tooth.

    I always had a hard time following aerobics. >.< Lack of coordination or something.

    Well not eating much meat is healthy. I'm sure there are ways to supplement what you're missing from it.

    Anyway I've been really lazy the past month. Was pretty good about exercising daily in spring but lost motivation. Maybe I can talk myself into it here. I really enjoy exercise once I get into a good routine but that's always a challenge.
     
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    If the class is steps I am always doing whatever instead of what the teacher is doing. I don't completely follow her either. As long as I move and I don't do any weird posture that would hurt my back or my neck or any other part of my body, I don't think it really matters that much.

    Well, I know I can take suplements, but I think it's better having the real thing. Apart from that, I have this thing with small red cells so they don't absorb as much iron. It isn't a real deal, at least according to my doctor. The worst that happens is I am really tired at times. But yeah, I force myself at least to eat red meat and liver and that kind of stuff.
     
  6. Kitsune `★.。・:*:・ Super Moderator

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    :lmao

    I remember you telling me about the red cell thing. I suppose the real thing is always going to be better than supplements.
     
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    I have a 'home gym'. Just a bench press a bunch of weights / Olympic bar. I haven't been using it and i feel like shit. Lol

    Motivate me guys!!
     
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    I downloaded yesteray some app for some short periods of exercise. I might use it on weekends since gym is closed.
     
  9. heartsutra a distant memory Retired Staff

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    My goal for this year is as hard as it is simple: Get back to a workout routine, preferably with Partner-kun.


    About three years ago, at the beginning of the year, I chatted with a friend via MSN, told her how I loved swimming and wanted to get back to it. Promptly decided to go swimming the next day. That was the start of a wonderful year in which I did cardio workouts everyday and went swimming at least once a week.

    I had to kick myself a little the next day, though. I went much later than I intended to because I spent hours researching for a new sports swim suit first. The one I had at that time was old and more of something you’d wear for a seaside resort and that’d look ridiculous, right? I realized I used that reasoning as a lame excuse to push it off further.

    This is my weakspot. I tend to overthink everything and plan so far ahead that I become tired just thinking about it. This happens despite knowing how it’s supposed to be. But working out felt deeply empowering and satisfying.

    The best is to just do it. Just concentrate on the present moment and thing ahead of you. Also, Nike should totally pay me for what I just said lol

    For most exercises you don’t need expensive shoes or equipment or can substitute and alter the exercises a bit to make them work. Right there on the floor, barefoot and all, start with a few stretching exercises. Just get started already. Get dirty. Get sweaty. You’ll want to shower anyways.

    What else helped me tremendously with working out was a stopwatch since I’m into high intensity interval workouts. I also never bother with shoes and just go barefoot for indoor workouts as it allows for maximum control. At one point I bought sports shoes for indoor workouts but after having worked out barefoot for months, I had learned to deal with it. Only went barefoot because I was impatient to get started and didn’t want to overthink it again btw

    Put on some good jam and flail around in intervals, why not? Do as many jumping jacks as you can in 1 minute, pause for 10 seconds, repeat. Increase intensity gradually. Small steps. Continuity is most important and everyone starts at the beginning.


    TL;DR
    It kept my mind in a good place. I should get back to it.
    We all should :preetwhy
     
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  10. Kitsune `★.。・:*:・ Super Moderator

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    ^ :preetwhy Totally agree! Overthinking exercise always slows everything down. The hardest part is getting out the door (or going to pick up your home equipment). Once you get started it feels pretty good. Just do it really is an accurate slogan!

    Ok, just to get myself started, I'm going to do 100 sit ups today.
     
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    Sadly I haven't done a lot of exercise for the past few months. I only do a bit of cardio; I bike for about 30 mins to an hour every other day. I did start running last week, but was out of breath after 40 minutes. Going to keep at it until I can run for at least an hour without tiring too much. I'll try to incorporate some strength and flexibility workouts. Summer is pretty ideal for getting back to good shape.
     
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    I'm going to try to do a bit more weight lifting after everything else gets settled. I'm debating if I want to buy all of my own weights or just use what is at the gym. But seeing as how I'm in a transitional period I think buying will be more trouble than it's worth right now. :lmao

    I go to the gym fairly often don't know about day count. Maybe at least 4-5 times a week? I do a large amount of running outdoors as well as on the treadmill so that is where most of my exercise really comes from. I guess on average I'm running anywhere between 3-8 miles depending on my work schedule that day/night. If I'm going to the gym I normally try to go during hours no one else is really around so that's overnight or early morning usually. That way I get my pick of equipment and I don't start getting anxious because loads of people are around. :hm
     
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    Depends on what your goal is, if you want to pack on muscle and mass then its weight lifting, if you want to lose weight then its cardio with maybe minor lifts? Gym is better than buying equipment for home because when you're usually at home you feel lazy and unmotivated, but it's a different feeling when you stop in the gym, you just want to hit everything there is. Plus it's less costly.

    I'm kind of stuck tbh, I'm trying to put on weight. At the moment I weigh around 70KG and want to be around 75+ KG (apparently I'm a bit underweight for my ae), but man, this is hard for me. For some reason I just can't pack enough weight and I eat a lot of meat and all that heavy stuff.
     
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    I've already got a lot of muscle so my main goal is to just lose any excess weight I've gained in the last few months due to eating a bunch of unnecessary crap because it was convenient and I wasn't able to cook. Any weight lifting would mainly be for toning I guess. Good point about the weights being costly depending on what kind of set-up I went with. :hm

    I do admit that being home makes you very unmotivated while actually being out in the gym makes you want to get a lot of shit done. :lmao

    That is pretty frustrating. I know there are people who eat a lot of heavy stuff but end up burning it off so their goal to pack on more weight falls short. My best guess is that you are probably going to increase the amount you are eating even more than now which might be rough to do. Have you tried taking any supplements yet? I'm not well versed here maybe someone else will have more advice to give.
     
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    Then yeah that would just be cardio but you also want to keep on doing the same weights so you don't lose that muscle by a huge chunk when you're doing cardio. I mean, you may lose a bit but that's part of the process of losing weight, if everyone could keep their muscle and just lose weight we'd all be supermodels :lmao Cross trainer is the best cardio machine I've used, I like treadmill but the cross trainer is a neat little thing.

    I cook a lot of stuff myself, maybe I eat too much healthy/lean food and not enough junk food :lmao Funny enough, it's actually harder to put on weight then to lose weight because trying to eat more and allowing your stomach to get used to it takes a long time whereas if you're losing weight, you can start to see some differences within a week.
     
  16. Atlantic Storm summa cum laude Supporting Staff

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    Goals: To become the Asian Adonis. A quick look on Google Images will show you my current 'body goal'. Here it is. In a less abstract manner of speaking, I would like to become a fine vessel of iron and steel docking at the port of hypertrophy. To gain some more weight to turn into muscle, but without losing my low percentage body fat. I know a 'clean bulk' (if such a thing does exist) is meant to be very hard, though.

    I'm fine as far as workouts go; I more or less know the stuff I need to do even if I religiously skip leg day. I do have a few questions, though: what would you recommend eating as a source of protein but isn't too fattening? How useful are supplements and protein shakes, and are they worth the money? I'm around 66 kilograms right now. Maybe 65.
     
  17. Kitsune `★.。・:*:・ Super Moderator

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    You guys are so good. :faint

    Dammit I need to get my act together. :preetwhy
     
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    Yeah, unless you're looking at just purchasing cardio equipment, it can get real expensive. I've put a good 4k into my gym already, and I'm at the point where I need to buy more in order to continue making gains (I utilize dumbbells for all pressing motions to make sure I don't end up with imbalances, only use a barbell for squats, deadlifts, etc.). I think to get a decent setup, you'll need to invest a good 8-10k, and you'll still lack the versatility of a good gym.
    Chicken breast and turkey breast are great sources. Usually 98% fat free or so, with about 30 grams or so of protein per 4 ounce serving. There's a reason bodybuilders have relied on these sources for so long.


    As far as my goals, I'm just really trying to get my strength to a point that I like it (basically just gotta bring my bench up at this point). Kinda fat at the moment, at 215 pounds, won't cut down until I get where I want to be though. Looking at a lean weight probably of about 190 pounds, so it's not like I'm too bad, still look great in clothes, but not really beach ready.
     
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    Do you have a picture of a 30 gram/4 ounce serving of chicken breast so I can get some reference?
     
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    About the size of a smart phone, or bit bigger than a deck of cards. Also, it's for skinless chicken breast, if you eat it with skin, you'll add fat. If you're tracking your macros pretty precisely, I highly recommend getting a food scale, they're like 10 dollars and make things a lot easier.
     
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    If you're about losing excess fat, you could just run an EC stack and continue the routine you've been doing.

    It's easier to just go for mass then do a cut.

    Chicken breast and peanut butter are god tier.

    That depends on how much money you have. As far as supplements go, caffeine is tried and true for everyone, and creatine is legit but non-responsive for some people. Basically if you're regularly working out, you should be taking caffeine.

    With that said, supps cost a lot of money and generally they account for 1-3% of your success if you take them on the regular. I'd spend more money on more quality food before I go for supplements beyond the basic caffeine considering diet accounts for so much of your performance and looks.

    Protein shakes are useless.
     
  22. Moritsune Jack Hammer

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    I wouldn't really jump into an EC stack. Sure, they've been proven to stimulate moderate fat loss, but typically only effective if you're obese, and even then not enough to really make it worthwhile to take. I'd just put the hard work in, and track macros, nice and simple.


    Peanut butter is great, but has lots of fat. A couple servings a day is about as high as I'd go, but it all depends on your macros.


    Again, caffeine may help a little bit, but not enough to take as a supplement. Pre-workout will generally be loaded with it, but that's typically more effective to get you into the mood to lift than it will be to actually help you with fat loss.

    As far as protein supplements being useless, I completely disagree. Protein shakes can be a great way to meet your protein requirements for the day. Sure, most of your intake should be from whole foods, but if you get your 1-1.5 grams per pound mass it can be hard to do so with whole foods alone (not to mention the fact that you'll feel like you're stuffing yourself, especially if you're about my size and take in over 200g everyday). They're also great to help curb cravings, as you can get some awesome flavors (birthday cake, fudge brownie, cinnamon bun, cookies and cream, etc.) with around 25g protein per scoop, and very little fats and carbs comparatively.
     
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    It being effective for obese people is false because they lack muscle mass. In fact, it'd be detrimental considering a combination of caffeine and ephedrine would likely be to much for their hearts to handle.

    EC stack is effective because the combination is such a potent appetite suppressant and heavily favors lose of fat over lose of muscle during a cut.

    Fats are good.

    Pre-workouts are also generally full of filler and unnecessarily expensive. Caffeine doesn't help "a little bit", it helps quite a bit depending on your dosing considering it's a potent stimulant.

    That warrants plenty reason enough to take it as a supplement when you couple it with it's cheap cost.

    Depends on which protein shake you're talking about.
     
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    Pretty much all the actual research data I've seen is based on higher BMI individuals, clinically obese (though I will admit that BMI is a horrible standard to use for determining health and obesity, as I'd admittedly be classified as obese using such standards). Either way, I haven't seen any research to suggest that it would significantly help with a cut, if you have I'd love if you could link me to it. As far as appetite suppression is concerned, it may very well do so, but if you have a healthy diet, counting macros, you'll actually feel more full throughout the day, and not need such help. I can testify that when I'm tracking macros, I have to force myself to get my full daily values, never hungry.


    To a certain extent, it's all about balance. You hit your macros and you'll be fine. Throw in too many carbs or fats and you'll quickly start gaining more weight instead of losing it.

    It is a potent stimulant, but it really only works for appetite suppression and to make you feel more awake. It's much more effective to track macros and get your full daily value for fats, carbs and protein everyday instead of just suppressing your appetite (which can lead to decreased metabolic rate, just because your body ends up thinking you're starving it, which in a way you are). Also, as far as waking you up, it works for a bit, but you'll have to steadily increase the dose as you grow used to it. It's much better to just take caffeine or a pre-workout when you need the extra boost to get a workout in than to use it all the time.


    Most any protein supplement at a gold standard or higher is going to be worth taking. I personally like MTS whey, or ISO-100 whey isolate. Regardless, as long as you're not buying some cheap dollar store or Wal-Mart brand protein, it will be great, and even those cheaper proteins are better than nothing if you're having trouble hitting your protein requirements for the day.
     
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    BMI is a horrible standard to use, but even barring that you admit that you've seen only research pertaining to individuals who are rank obese on the BMI standard, and you're saying that it isn't beneficial for anyone but them?

    The point of a cut is to consume less calories in an effort to reduce your body fat percentage. Caffeine and Ephedrine are documented appetite suppressants. Caffeine and Ephedrine are documented aids in fat lose. They are also documented potent stimulants.

    There isn't any "very well do so". It's a very effective combination for cutting fat. Period. Why would someone use your anecdotes on how you feel on your diet when what I proposed works period? If you haven't noticed, snacking has become a national hobby. Why would I waste the mental effort to keep myself from snacking when I have access to an appetite suppressant?

    I don't have conclusive studies on the affects of an EC stack on an individual who weighs less. But looking at the individual drugs as well as how popular the stack is in fitness circles across multiple fitness forums and my own experience, I'm very assured of it's effectiveness.

    That's the point of a stimulant. Making you feel more awake and giving you more energy.

    What?

    I've cycled the EC stack for several months at a time and gone off, and 200mg of caffeine before a work out still gets the job done for me. The same is true for when I went on Yohimbine and Caffeine and went off.

    Your problem is that from the sound of it, you weigh a lot more than most people. You're going to need a higher dosage to get anything going.
     
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    Not that it's not beneficial to everyone, but that the benefits aren't significant enough to promote daily supplementation, in my opinion anyway.

    Yes, again, not saying they're not beneficial, but that the supplementation is unnecessary, and that the fat loss benefits aren't as significant as you're making it seem like they are.
    And I'm saying with proper macro tracking and eating whole foods, you'll more than likely end up consuming foods that will leave you full longer, and be able to fit more small meals in throughout the day to help you from overeating, no supplementation needed in order to suppress an appetite if you keep it in check.
    The results of the studies I've seen show it to be moderately effective at best, only slightly more effective than exercise alone. Also, just because something is popular in fitness circles doesn't make it effective. There are plenty of studies showing that placebos can trick a person into mentally thinking they're getting some benefit and end up losing more weight through no real process other than their body meeting the expectations they have for the "drug".


    Exactly, and I'd say that if you need daily supplementation for such, you're doing something wrong. It is much more beneficial to focus on your diet, sleeping patterns, and your workouts than to just blindly throw supplements in instead.


    If you're constantly suppressing your appetite, you will more than likely be taking in fewer calories than your body really needs. This can lead to an interesting side effect wherein your body will slow its metabolic rate to deal with the lack of nutrients, and actually store more fat as it will eat at your muscle stores prior to your fat stores. Tracking your macros will allow you to optimize your "fuel" input to your body, thus preventing the body from having to feed on itself, as well as helping you curb your appetite so long as you eat mostly whole foods, that will help you feel full longer.


    Then you're a bit special in that regard. It's well documented that your tolerance to drugs like caffeine increases the longer you use them. It's why the typical body builder can start off with one scoop of pre-workout and end up taking several after a couple years just to get the same effect.

    First, you're assuming I have a problem when I don't. I don't take caffeine or pre-workout on a regular basis. Only when I'm exhausted at the end of the day and still need to get a workout in will I take such supplements. (Typically I'll use pre-workout only on my workout late in the week after work wearing me down for the whole week. Even then, it's not every week that I take it, depends on the week, I'd say I use it maybe 2-3 times a month.)

    As far as my weight is concerned, I wouldn't consider 215 to be massive, or much more than the average man. I've got maybe an extra 30 pounds of fat (above the 10-15% I sit at after a cut) right now as I'm still trying to put on some size, and increase my strength. I can get by just fine on one serving of pre-workout on those days that I actually use it.
     
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    I find myself working out to theme workouts! They are really fun, and I find myself motivated a bit more often to workout. I think this Magical Girl WorkOut- By Hythe is wonderful if you feel like pushing yourself to the limit. Though my main thing with working out is that I would do it for a week or couple of days, and lose motivation. Anyone has something that motivates you that actually help push you to continue on?
     
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    To be honest I don't think I've been losing much muscle or at least I'm not noticing it any significant loss. I'd actually be fine with losing more but I think the nature of one of my jobs makes it so they are getting used even on days I'm not going to the gym. :hmm

    I haven't used the cross trainer before maybe I'll give it a try.

    Hmm can you give a short list of the kinds of healthy/lean food you eat? I might want to incorporate more of that into my diet moving forward so I get the results I actually want. Yeah I do recall most people saying it takes them longer to add weight than to lose it although I can't say what my experience with that is since I've never tried to actively add weight or bulk up before.

    I definitely wanted to purchase more than cardio equipment but as it stands that along with any potential weights sounds like I should hold off on for the foreseeable future. I'm starting to think I shouldn't even bother with a personal gym until after I've already bought a house. :tomasulk

    What is an EC stack? I've don't know what the EC is in reference to. :hm
     
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    Exercise—how often do you do it?

    Thread title sort of says it all, I think.

    I'm curious as to how much time a day you all spend exercising. Give your daily routine as well, if you want to, as I'm also interested in that.
     
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    Depends on how often I have to work but always at least two hours. If I'm just doing the most basic things my routine is typically to:

    -Stretch for 15 mins
    -Run for 90 mins
    -Stretch again for 15 mins

    If I am completely free for the day all the stretching is about the same but I'll run for 4 hours (give or take) rather than just 90 mins. If I'm still feeling good after that I'll get into some light weight lifting centering more on the upper body rather than the lower body.
     
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