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Yama vs some Elites

Discussion in 'Bleach' started by Gibbs, Sep 16, 2018.

  1. Gibbs <font color="#00FF80">Dad, 6/15/50-10/21/15</font>

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    Yamamoto (Shikai) vs

    Lille Barro
    Gerard
    Pernida
    Askin
    Hashwalth

    In separate fights of course.

    Bankai restricted.

    Second Scenarios:

    Bankai Yama vs Lillie & Gerard
    Bankai Yama vs Pernida & Askin
    Bankai Yama vs Full power Haschwalth & Gremmy
     
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  2. Keishin Well-Known Member

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    elites and top tier shinigami<<<shikai yamamoto Yamamoto<=base Yhwach<=base Ichibei<<<aizen
     
  3. Millón Vasto Toyble has forsaken us!

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    He loses to all. Its not even sure if he can beat lille and gerard with bankai
     
  4. DiscoZoro20 Ōka Shichibukai

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    Whether he uses bankai or not Lille, Gerrard and Askin win solo. The only ones that Yama might beat are Pernida or Haschwalth assuming he uses Bankai.
     
  5. savior2005 Well-Known Member

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    Even with Bankai, all of the Elite would be hard fights, and he would lose to some of them more times than not. Even Askin, who is the weakest, is capable of defeating Yama.
     
  6. Clowe King of Nothing

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    Can't think of any way for Yama to defeat AGerard and Lille to be honest.

    If he doesn't go all out against Askin right from the start he might be in trouble, since Askin could gain immunity to his reiatsu/flames.

    Pretty sure he could incinerate every last trace of Pernida if he wanted with enough effort.

    Not sure how Haschwalth would fare, since he's pretty featless, but I'd like to believe he's on the same level as Gerard/Lille, him being the Grandmaster of all the SR and all.
     
  7. Daio Well-Known Member

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    First scenerio he loses to all of them. Second scenerio he beats Askin (?) and Pernida and loses to the rest.
     
  8. Lord Stark Warden of the North

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    Shikai defeats Askin and Hashbrown. Bankai can defeat all of them. Reiatsu ultimately can overpower hax in Bleach. And based on Ywach's own assertion none among the Sternritter aside from him are anywhere close to Yama's output with ZnT
     
  9. Daio Well-Known Member

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    Shikai Yamamoto is definitely not beating Jugram and probably won't beat Askin either. The whole reiatsu>hax argument was never really a thing. Pepe affected Senbonzakura, Askin dropped Ichigo and etc. Yhwach's statement also wouldn't account for someone like Gerard or Pernida, individuals who don't have a set power level, etc.
     
  10. DiscoZoro20 Ōka Shichibukai

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    I think that the reiatsu>hax thing was only never really relevant because the author wanted to write a plot. Imagine all battles going like 5 secs with one of the two people saying "ha I no sold your pitiful ability. It's game over" and ultimately nothing happening. That would be pretty boring lol. That said I don't think Yama could do that against transcendent beings anyway. Maaaybe against Askin.
     
  11. Supreme King of The Alley - Lord Ashi Yaaaaay

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    The issue with elites is that their abilities (especially in Vollstandig) are so poorly defined that they have no almost weaknesses outside of plot convience saving the day

    But I say he can take Pernida, and maybe askin if he goes for the kill asap the rest are up in the air
     
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