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Yondaime ?

Discussion in 'Naruto Theories' started by Godammit, Jun 2, 2007.

  1. Godammit Well-Known Member

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    More proof that AL relate to Yondaime

    I've been reading Kakashi gaiden again and i noticed something

    Apart from all similarities and countless of remarkable proof like, (example.where AL sits there are seals on rope for Yondaime teleport jutsu...)

    Noticing something ? look at the moon (Akatsuki) and clouds just like Akatsuki clothes, maybe he was inspired by while sitting on the rock



    Seriously , just look at Yondaime's eyes and those typical evil expression.
    He has no mercy for the enemy what so ever.
    Shouldn't he been taken to Konoha for interogation about the plans and that sort of.. ?

    Btw , he could met Deidara and Zetsu there

    Well , sorry if this was posted already.

    He could be related to AL
     
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  2. Godammit Well-Known Member

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    Good info, I agree Yondaime I hope is AL.
     
  4. Godammit Well-Known Member

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    Just look at the Clouds and moon manga panel.
    He gives the clouds own manga panel and the other one is so big as it can be.
     
  5. Avish Happy as a pig in shit :D

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    you see i dont agree, if people were trying to kill you would yuo shwo them mercy?
     
  6. Godammit Well-Known Member

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    I wouldnt kill them if i got the upperhand, i will cut his arms off at if nesseracy.
    But just look at the Akatsuki TIP, Look at Yondaime eyes

    And btw Compare the Yondaime in shadow behind enemy with AL manga panel
    Kinda look like eachtoher
     
  7. Spencer_Gator Pain is a god.

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    lol yea, no one could touch Yondaime, he didn't have to kill anyone..he could pull a Sasuke and just knock them all out.
     
  8. Trollzilla Banned

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    Yondaime have the Same Sit-Style like AL.
     
  9. Mechanical Karasu Member

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    He didn't show the guy mercy because it was a war. And I think cutting off someone's arms is worse than painlessly killing them. O_o

    The tags are unrelated, why were there many next to the AL? Why wouldn't he just use one?

    Yondaime is dead, guys. Accept it.
     
  10. Avish Happy as a pig in shit :D

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    ^agreeed!!!!!!!!!!1
     
  11. Godammit Well-Known Member

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    We thought Orochimaru was dead but what the hell hes alive again in Kabuto body.
    We have seen Gaara died but what the hell he live again.
     
  12. Mechanical Karasu Member

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    Actually, no, a lot of people didn't think Oro died. And besides, he had died recently, so there was some doubt. And, furthermore, he could still be dead, Kabuto could just have obtained his dna or something and is turning himself into a new Orochimaru.

    Gaara also had died recently and he did turn out to be dead. Chiyo revived him.

    Yondaime died 15 or 16 years ago, using a Kinjutsu that kills the user. He's dead, finite, kaput.
     
  13. Kusogitsune Banned

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    Well, while "akatsuki" can mean "red moon", the name of the group in Naruto is written with a different kanji, and means "dawn" or "daybreak".
     
  14. Godammit Well-Known Member

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    Its an advantage to Konoha if they could take the enemy to Ibiki morino to get something out of him
     
  15. ataraxia A Peace of Mind

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    Mmm.. I changed my mind. I now think the Yondaime is the AL too. I just read through Kakashi Gaiden again, and I do get the feeling that he is not as innocent as he wants others to believe. There does seem to be many hints around pointing at him. (The extra cloud panel- *reps you, that seems to be a really big clue) There has to be a reason why Kishimoto chose to add an extra cloud panel (looking like Akatsuki's costume) with the Yondaime staring off into the distance.

    I never found the Yondaime particularly friendly in the manga, and he seems to have less of a interesting personality than Jiraiya, Naruto, or another other male ninja. (I remember feeling a little dissapointed when I first read it) I wonder if Kishimoto did this for a reason so readers won't get too attached to him to prepare for his appearance as an evil person (IF). (For example: Asuma's death, though he was fairly popular)



    Even in this panel, the Yondaime is very similar to the AL. They look pretty much the same- especially the eye shape. As you can see, the eye shapes of Kakashi, Rin, and Obito are very different. Throughout the rest of Gaiden, the Yondaime's eyes remain the same. To me, it seems like he's more likely to be the AL than Naruto.
     
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  16. Godammit Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for agreeing with me than some people here :wink smile-big
    Kishi gave a BIG clue with that oversized cloud.

    Seriously , Do u see any clouds at night ? not so good.
    Kishi wants us to see that
     
  17. Tyrannos Living a Life

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    AL is not the Yondaime. There is too much differences between the AL and Yondaime that proves this is the case. Hair, the eyes, and more.


    And that talk about Orochimaru living on in Kabuto was figurative, not literal. Just like Shikamaru having Asuma's spirit inside him (or in the cigs).
     
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    Yondaime is dead because Shiki Fuujin kills the user. I believe the Yondaime and AL to be former associates more than anything else. (For more info, check my sig.)
     
  19. Godammit Well-Known Member

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    Well , i said in first post he could be related.
    Will check youre sig
     
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    Well, I want Yondaime to be the AL, but it just wouldn't make sense. Besides, the shape of his head is completly diffrent.
     
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    I personally think that Yondaime is Tobi and is after AL.
    Not sure but I somehow think so.
     
  22. Seto Kaiba God Hand Crusher

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    I don't think AL is Yondaime, like GK, I believe he could possibly be a new character with strong ties to important characters like Sarutobi and Yondaime.
     
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    The Akatsuki leader's eye are white/gray with circle inside. WTF are you comparing here? Yondaime is dead and will people stop bring him from the dead?
     
  24. Godammit Well-Known Member

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    The whole manga is black and white -_-
    At anime it shows he has Blue eyes
     
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    They're gray in the anime, not the deep blue eyes that Yondaime and Naruto have.
     
  26. Spencer_Gator Pain is a god.

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    Eyes mean nothing they seem to change every time we see him
     
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    Not as drastically as the comparison between AL's and Yondaime's are. Even without color, they are still visibly different from each other.

    To add on to that, AL has auburn hair, Yondaime has blonde hair.

    AL seems to be shorter than his subordinates, Yondaime was 179 cm. That is around Itachi's height.

    GK also listed the differences in the AL theory too.
     
  28. Godammit Well-Known Member

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    I think hes related to him though
     
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    I thought the AL has like 4 circles in his eyes or something.
     
  30. Mechanical Karasu Member

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    He was just one little grunt out of many, He wouldn't have known anything useful.

    Besides, they were in the middle of a mission, they didn't have time to look after some Earth nin to bring back to Ibiki.
     
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