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Yu Yu Hakusho Speed

Discussion in 'Meta Battledome' started by Zaelapolopollo, Sep 21, 2009.

  1. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    Ya know apart from the Hiei speedblitzing the dude who can throw a hundred punches a second thing that is brought up in nearly all YYH topcs, I can't remember any real great speed feats for the characters.I'm probably just forgetting them so does anyone have any notable ones?

    And in terms of speed, is YYH around Bleach/One Piece level or beyond?
     
  2. Omnirix Magician's Red

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    Well I don't know if this is one but post DT Yusuke apparently can ride a bicycle faster than a race car.
     
  3. Lord Raizen The Warrior God

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    As far as can remember, you really dont have many quantifiable speed feats. You really just have to speed scale, which is made easier by the class system. You have D/C class Hiei completely owning Seiryu, then you have low B class Yusuke tieing with Hiei in the Dark Tournament. Hiei was B class at that point as well. However there was the instant when B class Hiei easily outran a gas explosion. Which i've heard range from 2000-8000 m/s.
     
  4. migukuni The Romantic Warrior; Taurus

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    YYH speed should be higher than bleach/OP levels

    in the manga we haven't exactly seen S level speeds and strengths the levels of mukuro and Yomi. We only see it in the anime

    In the anime though, S levels like yomi and mukuro are like 5x-10x faster than wind: which is ginda

    I don't know how fast wind is...
     
  5. Genyosai 10,000 Year Old Cod

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    "10 x faster than the wind" - That doesn't sound that impressive. Even with an F5 tornado standing in for "the wind", that would only amount to around 1340m/s
     
  6. Cableguy15 Retired

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    Hiei has the majority of YYH's speed feats.

    There's the feat where he saves yusuke from a gas explosion just as it had detonated. It's easily hypersonic because the detonation velocity of a gas explosion is 1,500-2,000 m/s

    There's also the one where he's standing about 20 feet away from makintaro, and manages to slice off his arm, but did it so fast it didn't even look like he had moved to Makintaro. Calced at mach 2-9. Toguro in his base form also has a similar feat to this, except he was closer.

    Seiryu was put at a speed of around mach 1-2 for what he did.

    And Hiei cutting down Seiryu was calced at mach 16.

    There was also a calculation that put Toguro's thumb flicking speed at 5,000 km/s for him to create the air bullets. :LOS

    From there it's all speed scaling.
     
  7. Genyosai 10,000 Year Old Cod

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    Do you have a link to this? I wanna see how they worked that out.
     
  8. NemeBro I is unicorn

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    I am pretty sure Yusuke and Kuwabara were bullet-timing after the Saint Beasts arc.
     
  9. Ultimate Deathsaurer Nightmare of Zi Super Moderator

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    Ryoma was dicking around with it about a month ago. He wasn't taking is seriously though.
     
  10. Herekic Deal with it

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    The biggest I'd say is hiei outrunning a gas explosion while carrying somebody.

    and he was only a B class at the time, which is a down right weakling by end of series levels.
     
  11. Shock Therapy Divine Power Monochrome

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    for higher levels everything is about power scaling as feats are limited for S class and above
     
  12. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    When did Hiei ourun this gas explosion?
     
  13. Akatora Active Member

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    Likely in the city right, if so the car got speed restrictions...

    Or was this him cycling on while it was just accelerating from a green light?

    Or did he pass it on the highway at it's max speed :p
     
  14. Gnome It's Me You'll Fight

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    air from Toguro's thumb bullet things would have to go pretty fast to blow the heads off of demons who are probably more durable than humans.
     
  15. Yohan Kokuchouin Child of the Lost Time

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    They are labeled as Hypersonic plus. Pretty much sums up their speed. However, they haven't shown any reason why they should be at or above lightning dodging or reactions...

    Some tried to argue Suzaku, but it clearly wasn't lightning.

    Although YYH lacks speed, normally their opponents don't have what it takes to put them down
     
  16. God Movement Admanistrator

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    Link removed - Hiei and Yusuke were fighting evenly right after.
     
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  17. Cableguy15 Retired

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    Yeah, Kamen Rider Ryoma did it (Actually, he's pretty much done most of the YYH calcs): Link removed

    I also remembered wrong, it's more like 3,000 km/s. 5,000 was the speed of the punches :LOS
     
  18. migukuni The Romantic Warrior; Taurus

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    well, in the anime the guy that fought against ginda was saying he can be as fast as the light (i just watched the scene again). and ginda at that time was an S-class that could defeat 3-4 yusuke's in sensui arc, hmmm... its very complicated i see (although all of this are in the anime not the manga)
     
  19. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    SpiritGun, you got a link to any of the actual calcs like the one saying Hiei was Mach 16?
     
  20. Yohan Kokuchouin Child of the Lost Time

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    So let me get this straight, the best speed feat they have is Mach 16? Is YYH that far behind in terms of speed?
    I know YYH must have some speed that's higher than this.
     
  21. Genyosai 10,000 Year Old Cod

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    Far behind the HST?

    I asked for One Piece calcs and the only reliable ones were approaching 1000m/s, anything higher being based on douriki scaling linearly and so on.

    Don't know about Bleach, but I don't think it was determined definitively compared to One Piece.

    Naruto doesn't have calcs that high.


    Isn't Mach 16 ahead of all the HST, then?
     
  22. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    That's what I was thinking. I always figured Bleach and One Piece were low hypersonic so Mach 16 should be at or above them.
     
  23. Monzaemon Active Member

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    Wtf? How is mach 16 "that far behind"?

    I don't think there are any feasible "calculations" to support anyone from HST is past that level of speed.
     
  24. Yohan Kokuchouin Child of the Lost Time

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    Hey Hey, no offense now lol.
    Is that speed higher than the Big 6? Where would it stand with Dragonball?
     
  25. Genyosai 10,000 Year Old Cod

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    Somewhere during or after Goku defeated Tao probably.
     
  26. Shoddragon Active Member

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    are you kidding me? a simple calc can easily yield gear 2 luffy being over 10,000 m/s assuming bare minimums.
     
  27. Genyosai 10,000 Year Old Cod

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    Reveal this simple calc, please. I'll grant that that's potentially possible, but I haven't seen any evidence of it.
     
  28. Shoddragon Active Member

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    ok. in order to disappear from sight, a human needs to be moving at 89 m/s. a peak human's max speed is only around 8.9 m/s. so there is a good distance of areound 10 times from someone's max speed and how much it takes to disappear from sight of them. zoro did this without even leaving a trace of himself, so a bare minimum assumption of 100 meters per second. Blueno disappeared from luffy's sight, meaning he was moving at around 1,000 m/s. Luffy in gear 2 blitzed blueno so much he disappeared. so gear 2 luffy was moving at a bare bones minimum of 10,000 meters per second. not very difficult and its using the fact that 89 meters per second is around the speed it takes to disappear from someone's sight.

    douriki calculations assume that 40 times higher douriki for example means being able to move that much faster. those calcs were done using douriki and reaction speed. seeing as I have know knowledge of reaction speed and movement speed and how exactly they interact I wouldn't dare try something like that.
     
  29. Genyosai 10,000 Year Old Cod

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    No, it could be just twice their speed or fifty. It depends on the particular characters attributes for a start, and furthermore, there is no set speed such as 89m/s that will make something imperceptible. There are increments of time which will make things imperceptible, but bodily speed to travel about in battle obviously involves a distance component, which makes things very variable.
     
  30. Shoddragon Active Member

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    I said it was a basic, simple calculation. not a super detailed "factor this, factor that" things in it. its just a baseline for his speed.

    its generally accepted that 89 m/s or around 200 mph is the required speed for a human to disappear from sight of another human. that is a 10 times speed gap from peak human speed of around 8.9 m/s or around 20 mph.

    BTW: The more variables, the higher the chance of error and the higher the chance of MORE errors. I just kept it simple.
     

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