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Zabuza, Kisame vs. Itachi, Sasuke (pre-TS)

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Fenix, Nov 11, 2005.

Who'd win?

  1. Kisame, Zabuza easily

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  2. Obviously the Sharingan users

    11 vote(s)
    37.9%
  3. Draw...

    2 vote(s)
    6.9%
  1. Fenix

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    O.o

    Location: Hmm, similar to where Kurenai and Asuma fought Itachi & Kisame. Next to that little Konoha river or stream or w/e.

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    Pre-timeskip...since i'm an anime watcher.. =[

    No Cursed Seal for Sasuke

    The fact that Sasuke hates Itachi dont matter

    Assuming Kisame and Itachi both have indepth knowledge of eachother's abilities, but have no idea what their opponents' partners can do.

    Who'd win?

    You got two water specialists and two Sharingan + Katon users.

    I dont have an opinion because i'm a bad player =[
     
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  2. geminis

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    Zabuza will die off the bat from Itachi's overload of a tsukiyomi before he(zabuza) even gets a chance to throw the mist up.

    The fight will be something like this.

    Kisame quickly reaches for samehada and rushes the uchiha bros wondering why he doesn't hear zabuza's footsteps behind him lol. Turns around and poor Zabuza is just standing there with a wierd twitch impediment on his right eye/left cheek and both arms poised back.

    Kisame spits out the lake and the fight begins yada yada.

    I say draw. Itachi will be worned out and sasuke will get caought in a water prison which Itachi won't care to get him out of.
     
  3. martryn

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    Sasuke is a non-entity if this is pre-timeskip. It basically comes down to Itachi vs. Zabuza and Kisame within the first minute of the fight. And Itachi isn't exactly a stamina freak. I sau Zabuza and Kisame wear Itachi out and finish him.
     
  4. Guy Gardner

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    I'd say Kisame and Zabuza are a better pairing. Kisame fighting Itachi is gonna be an excellent fight because Itachi will have a ton of trouble trying to keep up with his blockbuster jutsus, but he can draw from a much larger pool of jutsus due to his Sharingan abilities and has the Sharingan advantage in for things like Taijutsu. It's a draw there.

    Sasuke is really the weak link, because I think he'd honestly still have trouble fighting someone like Zabuza. He's mid-high chuunin level before Time Skip. Zabuza is an Elite Jounin, easily. I think Zabuza would almost definitely win out in the end.

    I'd say Kisame is the only person left standing in a realistic fight. Sasuke dies to Zabuza, Itachi finishes off Zabuza, but he doesn't have the stamina to beat Kisame and Zabuza together.
     
  5. Keyser S?ze

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    i'm going to say kisame and zabuza, sasuke doesn't really matter in this fight. kisame and zabuza vs itachi would be a good match, i think zabuza would be able to get the mist in before itachi puts a genjutsu on them. anyways kisame and zabuza probably know how to work as a team anyway.
     
  6. Jonas

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    I'm so glad that people are actually giving Kisame credit now. If this battle was created pre-Gai & CO fight, almost everyone would give this one to Itachi. (Even saying that he would take both Kisame + Zabuza out).
     
  7. martryn

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    If this was Kisame and Zabuza vs Gai and Neji I'd say Gai and Neji...
     
  8. Jonas

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    yeah sure martryn, but now im finally happy to see that people aint underestimating Kisame so much. I mean, some thought that Itachi could *pwn* Kisame so hard because Kisame respects Itachi.
     
  9. Code

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    Well it depends on the level of difference between Kisame and Itachi. If it isn't too much, then I'd say Kisame and Zabuza. Especialy if Kisame can fight like Zabuza, using only sound. As while Sasuke is easily finished off, Zabuza could put up a mist, with that, both him and Kisame should be able to finish of Itachi (not Kisame... ...).

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  10. Jonas

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    ?! :laugh :laugh
     
  11. Nice Gai

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    I feel Kisame has the upperhand here. He has hung around Itachi too much to get caught in Itachi moves and Kisame has too much power and Stamina. Zabuza will probably have a time with Sasuke. He should be prepared against the sharingan. It is just a stamina fight. Kisame for the win. Zabuza will have some trouble though.
     
  12. geminis

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    I am one of the few ppl that never under-estimated kisame. I also think deidara is incredible. Sas & Itachi's so called lower partners are more charismatic than their higher ups for sure. I also think kis and dei have a lot of potential and definitely more growth, specially Kisame hanging around Itachi.
    I'm sure Kisame now knows how to fight a doujutsu user from analyzing his comrade. Itachi probably shares his doujutsu tactics with kisame too, it just that kisame wouldn't be able to dish out genjutsu like Itachi but definitely know the precautions to go up against it.

    Zabuza will post no threat to Itachi besides being a decoy or nusaince. If zabuza could be quick enough to throw up the mist while kisame spits out the lake they can conjure up a geographical advantage towards Itachi.

    I say that in this case scenario sasuke will last about 15-20 minutes still breathing and Itachi will kill zabuza just to be able to flee away from kisame.
     
  13. Chamcham Trigger

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    Exactly what I think. Sasuke does some fancy moves only to get finished off by Zabuza within a few minutes, then Zabuza comes in to save Kisame from Itachi and they both wear him out and finish him off.
     
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    you mean sasuke would last longer than 30 sec?????:blink
     
  15. Nice Gai

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    Sasuke's CS2 and 3 star Sharingan would be a problem.
     
  16. Jonas

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    3 minutes max.
     
  17. Nice Gai

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    I have Zabuza winning but Sasuke will give him a go. Sasuke would need Naruto throw at him. Unless Itachi can turn in to a Wind Shuriken(Think that is the name correct me if I am wrong) Sasuke will give him a 2 minute and 30 second go. 2 minutes to power up and 30 seconds to get owned by Zabuza.
     
  18. MartialHorror

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    lol,

    since when has Itachi used MS in the first round?

    I thinK Zabuza and Kisame could win.

    Sasuke is good for his age and all but I don't think would eb too much of a help against two Jounin level fighters.
     
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    Sasuke will probably kill himself. He cant stand to be in the mist of battle between three Jounin.
     
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    sharringan

    itachi could put kisame in a world of genjutsu and sasuke has gotten stronger since last time zabuza and him met so he could use sharringan or chidori
     
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    So he can use chidori on zabuza while he just stands there and waits to be hit by it? How will Sasuke be able to see through the mist?...that is if they're fighting near water. Despite that fact, remember that sasuke didn't become Jounin level after his fight with Zabuza. Sasuke's a non factor. As for Kisame, he'd be having a really hard time but he wouldn't be finished off instantly. It's not like Kisame doesn't know about the MS or the Genjutsu.
     
  22. s14tat

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    post time skip sasuke with no curse seal is not as fast as zabuza so even with the sharigan hes not going to hit anybody.
     
  23. Crowe

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    A fight between 7 year old kids might be impressive and they may use some fancy moves, but that doesnt have to mean that they can do anything against the 15 year old kids on the other side of the fence.
     
  24. Last of the Uchihas

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    Itachi can take care of of the strongest sannin, Oro.

    Kisame can't.

    Oro > Kisame and Zabuza

    Itachi > Oro > Zabuza and Kisame
     
  25. OniTasku

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    I'd honestly have to say that Zabuza and Kisame could win the fight. Sasuke could perhaps give Zabuza quite a run for his money, as he could possibly have the CS2 and Chidori, which if used intelligently and in the right case, Sasuke could probably defeat Zabuza (this is taking into account that Zabuza would have not improven AT ALL).

    Kisame would take some damage from Itachi, unfortunantly Itachi is not a stamina fiend, which unfortunante for Itachi, Kisame is. Kisame wins there. Kisame would probably finish off Sasuke (since he'd be worn down from Zabuza, if he hadn't lost).
     
  26. Last of the Uchihas

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    I love how people just say that Itachi's ins't a stamina freak.

    His MS jutsus which are a one hit kill it what drain his chakra, because that's how powerful they are.

    Itachi uses MS, and the fight is over before you get to say WTF?
     
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    Yes, while Mangekyou Sharingan jutsu may be incredibly draining, compared to Kisame, Itachi is not a stamina freak. Kisame can keep on going and most likely take a huge beating and still get up.

    In comparison of Missions, Kisame has completely outdone Itachi, and gone through much more. Kisame is older, with a lot more experience. I'm not going to play the 'Seven-Mist Swordsman' card, because it's over-used and can't be justified. I'm not going to bother with Itachi's 'killing the Uchiha Clan' card either, because it's over-used and not really explained how he accomplished it. For all we know, he could have gathered the majority of the Uchiha clan in one spot and used a MS jutsu and weakened/killed most with that and kill off the one's still standing.

    It's known that Itachi is amazing with his shuriken abilities. Itachi is also really good with genjutsu/doujutsu. Kisame is mostly known for his stamina and suiton jutsu's. Kisame is probably amazing in taijutsu considering his weilds Samehada and held his own against Gai and his team (at 30%). Itachi would most likely HAVE to resort to using a MS jutsu, which would likely deal a large amount of damage to Kisame. But Kisame being a stamina fiend, and Itachi being in a weakened state due to MS, he'd be done for.
     
  28. hellraiser

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    I think that Kisame and Zabuza would be able to beat Itachi and Sasuke. Itachi would fight Kisame witch would be a close fight, while Sasuke would be getting his butt kicked pretty badly by Zabuza. Even if Itachi would be able to beat Kisame he would not have enough stamina left to beat Zabuza after Zabuza beat Sasuke.
     
  29. Last of the Uchihas

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    MS would drain anyone, this is why its power is so godly, it kills instantly.


    Irrevelant

    Oro is a lot older than Kisame, and a lot more powerful than Kisame and has more mission than Itachi, and he said that Itachi is stronger than him.


    another attempt the take away Itachi's accomplishments.

    He didn't killed them by surprise nor in their sleeps, since it would go against his mission.

    He wanted to test his strength, so he wouldn't cheat.

    The fact that he used Tsukuyomi twice on Sasuke on "that day" prove that he didn't kill the Uchiha clan with MS.


    Kusanagi > Samehada.

    Even Enma fears that legendary sword.

    Itachi is a better taijutsu expert than Kisame.

    Just look what Sasuke in two months achieved.

    He managed to learn chidori and Lees's taijustu and speed.

    All that took Lee years to attain, while Sasuke in two weeks was already a master like Lee.

    Imagine Itachi, the greatest genius that the academy had ever seen.




    You don't get it.

    Itachi uses MS and the fight is over.

    Kisame and Zabuza are dead.


    Could Kisame and Zabuza kill Jiraiya?, Oro? Yondaime?

    I bet you would say no.:amuse
     
  30. Darkness

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    I'm a bit lost here. Isn't MS a genjutsu that severely damages your mental barriers and induces a temporary bout of insanity?

    Ok, so Itachi uses MS at full blast on Kisame and goes for the kill using a kinjutsu or any other lethal jutsu, but I've got to partially agree with OniTasku. Itachi's a stamina freak, he could well survive a vigourous pounding by Itachi. Besides, he's one of the Akatsuki and I don't think they take members that are weak in body and mind. I go for Kisame and Zabuza
     
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